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First significant injury... On defense too.

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/s...is-allen-says/

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Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 996573)

First significant injury... On defense too.

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/s...is-allen-says/

That happened back during the off-season. Nothing new. We only carry five DE's on the final 53. No guarantee Tanoh would make the cut anyway. It just gives the young guys a chance.

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 996575)

That happened back during the off-season. Nothing new. We only carry five DE's on the final 53. No guarantee Tanoh would make the cut anyway. It just gives the young guys a chance.

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Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 996573)

First significant injury... On defense too.

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/s...is-allen-says/

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 996575)

That happened back during the off-season. Nothing new. We only carry five DE's on the final 53. No guarantee Tanoh would make the cut anyway. It just gives the young guys a chance.

Mebbe not...

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Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 996573)

First significant injury... On defense too.

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/s...is-allen-says/

Unfortunate for him and the team.

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Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 996577)

Menge not...

https://twitter.com/nofnetwork/statu...11391648157760

Anyone who has been watching, losing Tanoh hurts the depth.

Sure as hell can’t count on Payton Turner & WTFoskey is still a unknown.
Recently signed FA Chase Young is coming off neck surgery & Cam is an old man.

Can’t put my hands on the stats but IIRC, Saints ranked 27th in pass rush efficiency.

Carl Granderson needs help.

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I'm getting more and more excited with everything I'm hearing about the brand new offense! It's sounding like Taysom is going to be having a larger role than ever. Just think of a combined role of a Kyle Juszczyk and George Kittle. He's been practicing at both positions in OTA's.

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 996601)

https://twitter.com/TheSaintsWire/st...40829153911066

I was hoping that Saldiveri would play last year at some point.
Guarded optimism.

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We may finally get to see Taysom being used to his fullest. Extremely exciting!

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If Saldiveri makes the leap then our biggest problem is finding a competent RT.

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Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II (Post 996639)

If Saldiveri makes the leap then our biggest problem is finding a competent RT.

Sounding like we may have that in Penning.

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Here are some big ifs..

Fuaga steps in as a rookie and is a stud.

Penning is healthy and plays like a first round pick

Saldiveri proves ready to play at this level

Udoh or Herron or Patrick or Lemieux turns into a good signing

Ram responds to treatment

Should say 3 of these things happen then our line should be fine. Not predicting or expecting it. Just pointing it out.

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Fuaga steps in as a rookie and is a stud. Likely

Penning is healthy and plays like a first round pick. Maybe

Saldiveri proves ready to play at this level. Probably

Udoh or Herron or Patrick or Lemieux turns into a good signing. Likely one of the 4 will

Ram responds to treatment That ship has sailed

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On topic of Ram, this is the last update I heard…

https://www.neworleanssaints.com/new...jordan-ramczyk

Anything more recent I haven’t heard?

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Here are my odds:

Fuaga steps in as a rookie and is a stud. 65% (that he is at least average as a starter, realistically on a rookie 1st round pick there is a wide range of outcomes and first year stud may be only 25% while serviceable as a fill-in might be 65-75%)

Penning is healthy and plays like a first round pick 10% (the tape is very bad, I don't believe in miracles, maybe Zach Wilson cures cancer and Jalen Raegor solves world hunger)

Saldiveri proves ready to play at this level 25% (that he is as good as Hurst was last year, this guy was just a mid round pick and could not crack the lineup even with a lot of injuries last year. 25% is not an insult, if this guy goes from 18 snaps last year to a decent starter this year he could continue to develop and be above average in the future. having a 25% chance to get a good starter with a 4th round pick is actually fine, heck with one who showed nothing rookie year it may be optimistic).

Udoh or Herron or Patrick or Lemieux turns into a good signing 50% (but that probably means we found a new Hurst, not a pro bowler, when you lose a $3-4 million a year guy and throw darts at the wall with four $1-2 million guys, you have a fair chance of a replacement but probably not an upgrade)

Ram responds to treatment 30% (That he responds enough to start, increasingly less likely that he is as good or durable as before, but given his talent and chronic injury there is a wide range of possibilities from pro bowl to becoming a very mediocre player where he looks like Hurst starting at tackle to retirement or embarrassment.)

Those are the percent chances I would bet for those things. They add up to 180% so I guess my prediction would be only 1.8 of those things happen.

But some of those things are relative because it matters exactly how good and how healthy our starters are every position. In some cases you are calling for a player to be a stud or play like a 1st rounder, in others you are merely calling for them to respond to treatment, be a good signing (at $2 million that could just mean decent depth), or be ready to play at the NFL level.

Last year McCoy was our best oline, Ram was good when available, and Ruiz, Peat, and Hurst were serviceable, while Penning and was a liability and Saldiveri could not perform at a level to take the field for any significant snaps. If this year McCoy is still our best oline, and our second best is not better than 2023 Ram was when available, we could have a worse oline than 2023 even if everyone is servicable. But, Peat, Hurst, and possibly Ram are gone, and they are started ahead of Penning and Saldiveri last year for a reason, as did backups we let walk. Realistically, there are scenarios where our oline is worse than last year, about the same, or better. Of the three, I would say that better is the least likely, because realistically we have probably lost 3 starters and replaced them with one player essentially, a mid-1st round pick, filling in the other spots with $2 million and under free agent journeymen. That 1st round pick is something, but as Guido says oline are coming into the league less and less ready, so a standout performance in year one is far from a lock.

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Originally Posted by BakoSaint (Post 996646)

Salient points. ^^^

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 996613)

We may finally get to see Taysom being used to his fullest. Extremely exciting!

https://twitter.com/nofnetwork/statu...17506497008068

YOU may see Taysom being used to his fullest. :rolleyes:

TRUE FANS have seen him return kicks, block punts, catch and throw passes and score TD's to become the only player since Frank Gifford in 1957 to been have at least 10 career touchdown receptions, rushes and touchdown passes.