Question about the Saint's upcoming season

AsylumGuido · 05-24-2024, 04:45 PM

Originally Posted by Boston Saint

The post Brees/Payton era has been rough so far (not as rough as the Patriot's re-start thankfully for me). This season obviously will be key for the future direction of the organization. So I will ask a seemingly stupid question.

Are you pulling for the Saints to win the NFCS this season?

Simple as that...Yes or No without caveats. Wondering who besides myself and Guido will say Yes or even answer.

Well? Any answer?

Sinner · 05-24-2024, 05:05 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Well? Any answer?

Studies have shown that when you cover your eyes but still peek through your fingers, what you pretend to IGNORE grows bigger and more prominent.

Boston Saint · 05-24-2024, 05:40 PM

Originally Posted by Sinner

Studies have shown that when you cover your eyes but still peek through your fingers, what you pretend to IGNORE grows bigger and more prominent.

Please cite these studies.

Sinner · 05-24-2024, 06:45 PM

Originally Posted by Boston Saint

Please cite these studies.

One word… Quido.

Boston Saint · 05-24-2024, 07:23 PM

Originally Posted by Sinner

One word… Quido.

Ok. That was funny.

TheOak · 05-28-2024, 06:49 AM

Originally Posted by Boston Saint

The post Brees/Payton era has been rough so far (not as rough as the Patriot's re-start thankfully for me). This season obviously will be key for the future direction of the organization. So I will ask a seemingly stupid question.

Are you pulling for the Saints to win the NFCS this season?

Simple as that...Yes or No without caveats. Wondering who besides myself and Guido will say Yes or even answer.

Some of us remember the pre-Brees/Payton era so we are conditioned. Also, there is a marked difference between wanting a team to win and passive-aggressively attacking fellow fans because they understand that desire does not affect reality.

Originally Posted by Boston Saint

Please cite these studies.

See... Gen-x grew up without the internet which forced us to hone and reply on objectivity, deductive reasoning and critical thinking. This resulted in a generation that doesn't gulp down internet studies like baby birds waiting for momma to feed them.

That said. Here is a study on Optimism.

https://www.eurekalert.org/news-releases/1009650

Boston Saint · 05-28-2024, 08:36 AM

Having been born in the 60s I remember the pre-breeze/Payton area very well myself. That is one of the things that makes me laugh when I hear people complain about how poor the state of the franchise is now. Even with 7-10 and 9-8 records over the last two seasons The franchise is in a much better spot than it was in the days with fans wearing bags over their heads.

That’s an interesting study you point out that has nothing to do with the conversation at hand. Just as I have clearly pointed out that I do not agree with Guido’s overly optimistic view of the franchise, I do not agree with other user’s obsessively pessimistic observations, and predictions. What’s more I don’t understand either side’s need to try to force others to agree with their point of view.

According to another optimism/Pessimism study:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3807005/

“Nonetheless, the empirical literature suggests that, in regard to one's general attitude, being in the middle of the optimism-pessimism continuum (i.e. practicing 'realism') is not necessarily the best. A moderate dose of optimism, although it distorts one's perception of reality to some extent, can be advantageous. Studies that investigated the correlation between optimism and health suggest that optimists generally have better physical health [317], less cardiovascular diseases [318] and improved immunological functioning [319]. Furthermore, optimists and their romantic partners indicated greater satisfaction in their relationships…”

Rugby Saint II · 05-25-2024, 03:38 PM

Originally Posted by Boston Saint

The post Brees/Payton era has been rough so far (not as rough as the Patriot's re-start thankfully for me). This season obviously will be key for the future direction of the organization. So I will ask a seemingly stupid question.

Are you pulling for the Saints to win the NFCS this season?

Simple as that...Yes or No without caveats. Wondering who besides myself and Guido will say Yes or even answer.

I'm kind of surprised that you didn't mention me....but I was critical of last years team. Although, I'm dubiously excited about this season. And (Drum roll please) the answer is "Oh, Hell Yes".

Boston Saint · 09-15-2024, 03:39 PM

Just wanted to re-visit this thread.

05-24-2024, 04:45 PM	#1
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,472	Re: Question about the Saint's upcoming season Originally Posted by Boston Saint The post Brees/Payton era has been rough so far (not as rough as the Patriot's re-start thankfully for me). This season obviously will be key for the future direction of the organization. So I will ask a seemingly stupid question. Are you pulling for the Saints to win the NFCS this season? Simple as that...Yes or No without caveats. Wondering who besides myself and Guido will say Yes or even answer. Well? Any answer?

05-24-2024, 05:05 PM	#2
Sinner 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 4,041	Re: Question about the Saint's upcoming season Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Well? Any answer? Studies have shown that when you cover your eyes but still peek through your fingers, what you pretend to IGNORE grows bigger and more prominent. K Major likes this.
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05-24-2024, 05:40 PM	#3
Boston Saint 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 5,137	Re: Question about the Saint's upcoming season Originally Posted by Sinner Studies have shown that when you cover your eyes but still peek through your fingers, what you pretend to IGNORE grows bigger and more prominent. Please cite these studies. Rugby Saint II likes this.

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TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,039	Re: Question about the Saint's upcoming season Originally Posted by Boston Saint The post Brees/Payton era has been rough so far (not as rough as the Patriot's re-start thankfully for me). This season obviously will be key for the future direction of the organization. So I will ask a seemingly stupid question. Are you pulling for the Saints to win the NFCS this season? Simple as that...Yes or No without caveats. Wondering who besides myself and Guido will say Yes or even answer. Some of us remember the pre-Brees/Payton era so we are conditioned. Also, there is a marked difference between wanting a team to win and passive-aggressively attacking fellow fans because they understand that desire does not affect reality. Originally Posted by Boston Saint Please cite these studies. See... Gen-x grew up without the internet which forced us to hone and reply on objectivity, deductive reasoning and critical thinking. This resulted in a generation that doesn't gulp down internet studies like baby birds waiting for momma to feed them. That said. Here is a study on Optimism. https://www.eurekalert.org/news-releases/1009650 saintsfan1976, Rugby Saint II and K Major like this.

05-28-2024, 08:36 AM	#7
Boston Saint 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 5,137	Re: Question about the Saint's upcoming season Having been born in the 60s I remember the pre-breeze/Payton area very well myself. That is one of the things that makes me laugh when I hear people complain about how poor the state of the franchise is now. Even with 7-10 and 9-8 records over the last two seasons The franchise is in a much better spot than it was in the days with fans wearing bags over their heads. That’s an interesting study you point out that has nothing to do with the conversation at hand. Just as I have clearly pointed out that I do not agree with Guido’s overly optimistic view of the franchise, I do not agree with other user’s obsessively pessimistic observations, and predictions. What’s more I don’t understand either side’s need to try to force others to agree with their point of view. According to another optimism/Pessimism study: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3807005/ “Nonetheless, the empirical literature suggests that, in regard to one's general attitude, being in the middle of the optimism-pessimism continuum (i.e. practicing 'realism') is not necessarily the best. A moderate dose of optimism, although it distorts one's perception of reality to some extent, can be advantageous. Studies that investigated the correlation between optimism and health suggest that optimists generally have better physical health [317], less cardiovascular diseases [318] and improved immunological functioning [319]. Furthermore, optimists and their romantic partners indicated greater satisfaction in their relationships…” SaintFanInATLHELL, AsylumGuido and Rugby Saint II like this.
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05-25-2024, 03:38 PM	#8
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,117	Re: Question about the Saint's upcoming season Originally Posted by Boston Saint The post Brees/Payton era has been rough so far (not as rough as the Patriot's re-start thankfully for me). This season obviously will be key for the future direction of the organization. So I will ask a seemingly stupid question. Are you pulling for the Saints to win the NFCS this season? Simple as that...Yes or No without caveats. Wondering who besides myself and Guido will say Yes or even answer. I'm kind of surprised that you didn't mention me....but I was critical of last years team. Although, I'm dubiously excited about this season. And (Drum roll please) the answer is "Oh, Hell Yes". AsylumGuido, WW_Who_Dat and Boston Saint like this.

09-15-2024, 03:39 PM	#9
Boston Saint 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 5,137	Re: Question about the Saint's upcoming season Just wanted to re-visit this thread.