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Saints vibe check: Why there's reason to be excited about the new-look offense
this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II You're right. I don't want to have a bad season but if we do DA can go call defense somewhere else next year. I want to win. Badly. Otherwise, I wouldn't be here unless ...
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07-07-2024, 04:04 PM
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Re: Saints vibe check: Why there's reason to be excited about the new-look offense
Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II
Is there a chance that Dennis Allen isn't as horrible as the haters claim? He does have the 3rd best winning percentage of any full time head coach in Saints history. Believe it or not, Allen is also the 5th winningest coach in Saints history after only two years.
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07-07-2024, 10:05 PM
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Re: Saints vibe check: Why there's reason to be excited about the new-look offense
Originally Posted by AsylumGuido
“The 5th winningest coach in Saints history…” Over their 57 seasons in the NFL, the Saints have accumulated a record of 412 wins, 468 losses, and 5 ties, which is the tenth-worst all-time regular season record among active franchises. They have also made the playoffs fourteen times and have the eighth-worst playoff record with 10 wins and 13 losses. If Allen is FIFTH on the list of “winningest” coaches in Saints history, we are in serious trouble. Yes. There is a chance he is horrible. You’ll see it again this year.
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07-08-2024, 12:05 PM
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Re: Saints vibe check: Why there's reason to be excited about the new-look offense
Originally Posted by AsylumGuido
I'm willing to see what the team Offense looks like, post-PC. Being #3 in win % is a deceptive stat tho... especially when you look a bit deeper and you see the list he beats out has some pretty infamous names on it AG.
Other sub .500 notables: Ditka, both Bum and Wade Philips, Haslett, Nolan, and Fears. Mora and SP are the only coaches out of the 17 who had winning records. Even by the Saints HC measuring stick, that bar is pretty low. DA may have wins, but he's still a HC with a losing record in charge of the Saints (17-18 after 2 years) Like I said in another thread... I'm acting like I'm from Missouri this season. SHOW ME! 
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A wise man once said, "Poo-poo smells just as bad as s#!%. One just SOUNDS cuter!"
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07-08-2024, 12:29 PM
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Re: Saints vibe check: Why there's reason to be excited about the new-look offense
Originally Posted by leilung
After a 3–13 finish from a year earlier under “new head coach” Jim Haslett, the Saints finished with a 10–6 record to win the NFC West and advanced to the playoffs for the first time since 1992. They also won their first ever playoff game in franchise history by defeating the defending Super Bowl champion St. Louis Rams (The Greatest Show on Turf) in the wild-card round, with ARRON BROOKS at the helm at QB.
Our Dennis Allen/Derek Carr combination cannot even hold a match to that. |
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07-08-2024, 12:36 PM
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Re: Saints vibe check: Why there's reason to be excited about the new-look offense
Originally Posted by leilung
Let's not forget that the great Sean Payton went 21-27 over a three year stretch in 2014-2016. That's a worse losing record with the Saints than Allen has experienced.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying Allen is anything special, but there's no indication he is as bad as some imply. That Raiders team that he was saddled with was one of the most dysfunctional in NFL history. |
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07-08-2024, 01:10 PM
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Re: Saints vibe check: Why there's reason to be excited about the new-look offense
Originally Posted by AsylumGuido
You’re “not saying that Allen is anything special”.
Yet, he is the Saints HEAD COACH, which basically says it all. I’m sorry brother. A HEAD COACH needs to be something special. |
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07-08-2024, 02:30 PM
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Re: Saints vibe check: Why there's reason to be excited about the new-look offense
Originally Posted by Sinner
True Dat! But in the meantime maybe KK will be the kind of influence that left with Payton.
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07-08-2024, 02:38 PM
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Re: Saints vibe check: Why there's reason to be excited about the new-look offense
Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II
Barry Switzer won a SB and he was a crappy head coach.
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07-08-2024, 02:49 PM
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Re: Saints vibe check: Why there's reason to be excited about the new-look offense
Originally Posted by Boston Saint
Y’all have to admit that we are in a precarious position as fans, when we accept a HEAD COACH who lacks the fire that a HEAD COACH is supposed to bring. We are stuck between wanting to have a decent enough season (maybe thanks to K.K.) to keep an unspectacular HEAD COACH around for yet another painful year… or being okay with performing so poorly, that we let this dud go, and begin yet another “rebuild” phase for how many more years?
Meanwhile, other organizations are building CHAMPIONSHIP FOOTBALL TEAMS as we speak… |
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07-08-2024, 02:58 PM
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Re: Saints vibe check: Why there's reason to be excited about the new-look offense
Originally Posted by Boston Saint
Yup. On the other hand, Dan Reeves, Bud Grant, Marv Levi, Marty Schottenheimer, Don Coryell, and Chuck Knox are among the outstanding coaches who never won a Super Bowl.
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