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mapcow 07-16-2024 08:11 PM
Re: Reasons To Be Positive
 
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Originally Posted by Sinner (Post 997602)
LMFAO… Hey Map… Their jobs are hard! HARD I tell ya… But YOU are supposed to fix this.
Just pointing out reality.... Sure if i can see it and figure it out, upper management should be able to. They MUST know this team is mediocre at best, yet they don't address it. Go figure. :beatnik:

Sinner 07-16-2024 08:13 PM
Re: Reasons To Be Positive
 
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Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL (Post 997622)
If you are right, then I hope not. Because if you are right, the Saints in 2024 tanks, looks terrible doing it, and everybody gets fired. And I'll be here to talk about that 2025 team in whatever form it's in.

But if I'm close to being right, then we'll be right back here again. Typically it's changes in personnel (players/coaches), schedule, and health that causes huge swings in the outcomes of a season. The schedule pendulum didn't swing far from last year. So, unless the team looks like a MASH unit, they likely won't tank.

But you're the one that says stop with the woulda, coulda, shoulda. You should do the same. Loomis had his chance to fire Allen in January. He did not do it. It is done. The die is cast. We're going into the season with who we have.

So, it's pointless at every turn to point out what the Saints shoulda done. But you do it with every post you make.

SFIAH
We won’t tank. And as much as I dread being right, we’ll do just well (mediocre) enough to continue to reshuffle Raider-Refuse and undeveloped/underutilized pieces around in a disorganized and disoriented manner, so that I’ll just have to copy and paste what I’ve been writing for three years, in my discussions with you next year.

mapcow 07-16-2024 08:14 PM
Re: Reasons To Be Positive
 
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Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL (Post 997619)
None of them are championship quality. Not a single one.

It's scary how spoiled you guys were with Payton and Brees. Thinking that you can just go pluck another pair and kee it rolling.

Hell even Payton couldn't make a lot of headway without Brees in either of the two organizations that he worked for after Brees retired.

As for the Succs, we totally dominated them in a must win game for them. Not championship caliber by any stretch of the imagination.

SFIAH
with that.... i am sure the Broncos will be an elite team a hell of a lot faster/quicker than the Saints will be; especially with this current bunch of coaches and players. SP knows what to do, D A not so much... :beatnik:

SaintFanInATLHELL 07-16-2024 08:16 PM
Re: Reasons To Be Positive
 
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Originally Posted by Sinner (Post 997607)
“Face it. You have the same team. You have the same coach. You have the same owner. You already know what the results are going to be.”

^^^TRUTH
Your truth. Mine is the Saints are a mid team right now with decent health, and a quality win here and there can win the South, get into the playoffs, and possible make some noise.

But I don't spend each and every day trashing that situation here like you do. You are dissatisfied with that. And I do understand. But none of us need to hear it day after day after day after day.

SFIAH

SaintFanInATLHELL 07-16-2024 08:19 PM
Re: Reasons To Be Positive
 
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Originally Posted by Sinner (Post 997610)
“He would know exactly what needs to be done. At the peak of his career he had the physical skill to execute it. The guys he's working with have neither the mental or physical capacity to pull it off. And it gets frustrating fast.

That's why a good coach has the ability to take the strengths his guys have and blend them into the scheme to make it work.”

^^^ TRUTH.
Kubiak is that coach now. Whether or not he can do it we will see.

But it's going to be trail by fire. With 3 division games and 4 games against playoff teams in the first 6, how well this offense functions will reveal itself very quickly.

SFIAH

Sinner 07-16-2024 08:19 PM
Re: Reasons To Be Positive
 
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Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL (Post 997626)
Nope. Not going to do it. You are a terrorist on this board.

SFIAH
I will remind you (as many times as the Saints have NOT made it to the Super Bowl) that I come here to talk about my Saints.

You come here to talk about ME, and you’re starting to use words that could get you banned. So maybe chill, and bypass the sativa and head straight to the indica.

SaintFanInATLHELL 07-16-2024 08:28 PM
Re: Reasons To Be Positive
 
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Originally Posted by Sinner (Post 997612)
I’ve done it, a few actually. You can scroll (and have scrolled) to find them, and we can continue this discussion in any thread you prefer. I’ve got some time.
Why do you need a few threads for you main points:

1. Allen sucks and needs to be fired.
2. Carr was an awful overpaid pickup.
3. Loomis has the entire organization in disarray.
4. The current Saints suck and will be terrible in 2024.

You can have 1 single thread and cut and paste this each and every day along with whatever national media piece of the day that echos any of those points.

The real problem is that if anyone, anywhere here post anything other than those points, you are immediately there to "correct it" by dumping these points in that thread. That's what's got to stop.

Could we do the opposite? If we create a sunshine pumper's thread, will you stay out of it? I note that this exact thread is supposed to be one of those.Yet, here you are.

I'm somewhat misrepresenting my position. I don't really want the complaining to stop. But I do want the heckling, which is complaining in every thread that is not a complaint, to stop.

How can we do that?

SFIAH

Sinner 07-16-2024 08:31 PM
Re: Reasons To Be Positive
 
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Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL (Post 997633)
Why do you need a few threads for you main points:

1. Allen sucks and needs to be fired.
2. Carr was an awful overpaid pickup.
3. Loomis has the entire organization in disarray.
4. The current Saints suck and will be terrible in 2024.

You can have 1 single thread and cut and paste this each and every day along with whatever national media piece of the day that echos any of those points.

The real problem is that if anyone, anywhere here post anything other than those points, you are immediately there to "correct it" by dumping these points in that thread. That's what's got to stop.

Could we do the opposite? If we create a sunshine pumper's thread, will you stay out of it? I note that this exact thread is supposed to be one of those.Yet, here you are.

I'm somewhat misrepresenting my position. I don't really want the complaining to stop. But I do want the heckling, which is complaining in every thread that is not a complaint, to stop.

How can we do that?

SFIAH
Ask Quido.

SaintFanInATLHELL 07-16-2024 08:35 PM
Re: Reasons To Be Positive
 
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Originally Posted by Sinner (Post 997615)
Beat with baseball bats? You’re being a bit dramatic.
No I'm not. You expressed your feelings and now I'm expressing mine. I have a feeling this the level of frustration that you feel with the Saints now and the knowledge that it's not going to change for another season at least.

You don't get how mentally draining it is to see trash about the team I follow in a community I've been a part of for more that 20 years each and every day.

It's unrelenting. And worse it's futile because nothing is going to change before January at the very earliest.

SFIAH

Sinner 07-16-2024 08:36 PM
Re: Reasons To Be Positive
 
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Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL (Post 997635)
No I'm not. You expressed your feelings and now I'm expressing mine. I have a feeling this the level of frustration that you feel with the Saints now and the knowledge that it's not going to change for another season at least.

You don't get how mentally draining it is to see trash about the team I follow in a community I've been a part of for more that 20 years each and every day.

It's unrelenting. And worse it's futile because nothing is going to change before January at the very earliest.

SFIAH

“I have a feeling this the level of frustration that you feel with the Saints now and the knowledge that it's not going to change for another season at least.”

YOUR WORDS… ^^^ TRUTH.


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