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Klint Kubiak, AK, Taysom, Olave, McCoy, DD, Lattimore, Adebo, Taylor, the honey badger, Gay, Werner, Cam, Shaheed,....there is more, but I want to leave some room for people to disagree and tell me how crappy we are. Not really. But it's coming like the change of seasons are inevitable.

I love my Saints and I'm here to defend them not tear them down. :doh:

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It’s easy to ***** and moan rugs. Having faith takes courage. Some on this board lack that severely.

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It’s actually NOT easy to b*tch and moan. Those of us who do, are simply responding to reality. We would love nothing more than to celebrate a CHAMPIONSHIP TEAM, but our front office’s consistent mismanagement has severely disappointed. Don’t blame the “Haters”, shift the blame to what we are disappointed with.

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BS. You want them to fail. You detest Allen that much.

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Yup. Haters gonna hate. Losers like that want us to fail just so they can say they were right. Two years of non-stop *****ing supports that.

God I hate having to see the sniveling when these haters are quoted.

:rolleyes:

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Do you want them (US) to do just well enough to prolong the agony of keeping this dud around? Because if you do, that speaks volumes to the mindset of embracing mediocrity as an acceptable standard. It’s cool if you can admit that. Some of us want so badly to win it all, we were saying NO to duds like Dennis Allen and Derek Carr (TWO KEY POSITIONS) right from the start, while y’all were telling us to give it time to develop. Time has passed, and now you believe that K.K. is going to magically or strategically turn this ship around. It’s painful to enter into a discussion with people who are either happy to miss the playoffs, or who are delusional… but some of us keep trying to talk some common sense into y’all.

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After the last two years, we’d love nothing more than to be proven WRONG. But here we are.

Pretend that you’re mopping up the Rest Rooms at the Dome after another disappointing loss… and double check that IGNORE function on your device, adjust your rose colored glasses, double up on your meds, and you’ll be fine.

🤪

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I want this team, under the current leadership to win. You don’t.

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GAYLE don’t. Please redirect your frustration to the source of the problem.

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You were the one always complaining like a 12-year-old girl, not me. At least have the guts to own it

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I would hope any true fan would want the same, Boston.

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My complaining is like a loyal fan whose team has been consistently disappointing us since Drew was in decline and Sean Payton started packing his bags. You said that the sky wasn’t falling and that we should give it more time to develop, and you’re saying it again this year. Even a 12 year old girl has got the brains to know that you can’t put lipstick on this pig, and call it a supermodel. Do you have the guts to see it for what it is?

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There is no loyalty in you for the Saints. You are a fair-weather, spoiled detractor of the team.

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There hasn’t been fair weather in a long time, and I am as loyal as ever, but the Saints front office has been anything but loyal to its fans. Perhaps you might want to redirect your personal attack to management, instead of at a fan for calling it as it is.

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Ironic how the "Reasons to be Positive" thread lasted for exactly one, positive post.

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Consider the negative source, '76.

:rolleyes:

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Consider that the negative source is a failing front office, and tell your wallet to IGNORE them for awhile. Until then, you’d be wise to beef up your IGNORE button for me, because there WILL be pain.

See, I’m frustrated with my team for underperforming, while you’re frustrated with me for being frustrated.

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Actually my complaint with you isn't your complaining about the current regime. My true complaint is that you have absolutely no clue how to fix it. So, you clear out what you consider to be the current mess. Then what? Who do you bring in to give you the championship caliber squad you so desperately want?

An you just can't wash your hands of it and say "Well, that's Mrs. Benson's problem to solve." If she had the capacity to solve that problem, then she would have done it. You are asking her to dismiss a leadership team that brought her and her husband (and us fans BTW) great joy by bringing a Championship to New Orleans. If it were easy, or even possible, to recreate the GM,HC,QB leadership squad that got a championship, don't you think that she, and 30 other teams in the NFL would do that?

Let's not forget that leadership team got to the top of the mountain once. That same group failed to reach the top 14 other seasons.

So, fine, get rid of Dennis Allen, Mickey Loomis, Dennis Lauscha, and even Mrs. Benson and all the players. But with no plan of how to fill that void, and I doubt that you have one, all of your complaining is really just a waste of time.

And none of this is wanting to settle for mediocrity. It's just operating in the reality that none of the above people will be going anywhere before the end of the 2024 regular season. So, it's just more productive to discuss what these people can do, instead of complaining about what they can't when there's absolutely nothing that be done about getting rid of any of them in the forseeable future.

What I want to hear from you:

Get rid of Dennis Allen. Replace him with ______________.
Carr has got to go. Draft/Trade/Sign for ________________.
Get rid of Mickey Loomis. Replace him with _____________.
Get rid of Lauscha. The new team president needs to be _____________.
Have Mrs Benson sell the team. Sell the team to ________________

But you don't even try to fill in the blanks. Clearly for a championship team you feel the need to replace these people. So, exactly who are they? Who out there is actually going to make the difference you are looking for?

BTW I don't have a clue to these blanks either. But like the others I'm hoping we can roll with the current squad and make some progress. Sometimes the injury bug stays home, units like the offensive line gels, and new system and new spark on the offensive side can make a difference. There is a reason that the NFL turns over a minimum of 6 playoff teams each and every year. Will that be the 2024 Saints? Maybe or maybe not. But unlike you, I'm not going to just walk away from the entire 2024 season because the personnel that's currently in place is absolutely not to your liking.

SFIAH

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It’s not my job to fill in the blanks. If I ran my personal/professional business the way Gayle runs this one, my customers would come after me with pitchforks. My business runs smoothly and satisfactory enough (even on my shoestring budget), that I get to curl up on the couch on Sunday (and some embarrassing Thursday Nights) to hopefully watch some championship-level Football, played by multi millionaires, run by billionaires who don’t seem to give s rat’s a$$ about what I (or you) enjoy. So I drop in to vent to other fans about what I am (or am not) witnessing with a team that I have followed and rooted for for decades.

It’s too bad that that’s not what you want to hear from me.
You either get to hear me vent, or scroll on, or set me to IGNORE (almost like Quido LOL) until our team is owned by someone who cares about putting a winning professional football team on the field.

I wish we didn’t have to even have this conversation… but here we are… again.

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You sure about that? You do a very good job at it. As much as you detest Guido and his stance about things, you are him. You're just on the opposite end of that pole. The ying to his yang.

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I'm feeling positive about the O line.

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Well the only direction is up for that group so I coan agree on that.

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I don’t detest Quido at all. I detest a multi million dollar organization that has brought my team to mediocrity, if even that.

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ironic.... defending the indefensible. :beatnik:

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a fool and his money..... i let you fill in the rest. :beatnik:

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I positively think the Saints will NOT have a winning season with the current status quo. Too easy for the Saints organization to make bank while fielding a mediocre team. Mony talks, not championships, with this current bunch. Just a couple more months to confirm. pins and needles.

:beatnik:

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NO ONE ON HERE IS ROOTING FOR THE SAINTS TO LOSE. The nuance is lost on you again and again. For many if not most of us, the idea of the Saints winning just enough to keep things in perpetual “rebuild” mode with the key pieces remaining in place (all the right people in the building), is a slow torture that only a diehard masochist would willingly pay thousands of dollars to hope to enjoy.

Some of us strive for excellence in our personal and professional lives, and where we fall short, we have a multi million dollar entertainment industry to fill in the gaps and ease the stresses of daily life, at least on the weekends. To be disappointed again and again by the willful mismanagement and underperformance of our team’s colors, is nothing to celebrate.

Again (and again), we are not rooting for the Saints to lose, as they do a fair enough job of losing when we need them to win most, on their own. This is the reality that we get to witness, year after year since the Drew Brees/Sean Payton era. We were truly blessed for a good minute there, but you can’t put lipstick on this pig and call it a supermodel. That’s about it from this perspective. It’s just a game, but there is no honor or dignity in being even slightly delusional about anything in this precious life.

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“Winning championships is not the goal” ~ Quido

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Hey, I understand being upset with the team. I was bit****** with the rest of them last year when it was all I could to stomach watching a team in disarray lead by a substitute teacher. So, I get it. Really. I do.

But this is a new season, and most fans use this time of year to reignite the flames of fandom. We have the promise of a fresh start. That alone is pretty exciting. Throw in a new OC that brings winning principles and the enthusiasm is brimming over at my house.

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Seriously? Don't you have any hope for the team? If not, why are you even here? Don't tell me that it's to interact with other fans for a meaningful discussion. I have seen Sinner be happy when the team played well and I'm hoping for more posts from him like in the old days. On the other hand, mapcow really doesn't seem to have anything positive to say about anything or anyone. Well, maybe his cow.....

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I am happy for you. Truly. I just don’t share your level of optimism, although I am always enthused with a Saints WIN. Let’s see what happens…

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No doubt the cow is the only thing that can tolerate the thing.

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I would say almost nothing the Saints did this offseason identifies as "status quo".

Yes, Dennis Allen is still the HC but the moves made would indicate a man and franchise focused on becoming a playoff team again.

With a little luck on the health and turnover fronts, we could exceed expectations. :bng:

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None of that matters at all to the haters. We can win 13 games while winning the division and losing in the Super Bowl and they'll still be demanding Loomis and Allen get fired. Hell, they'd probably want them gone even if we did win it all because of how deeply their hatred runs.

Seriously, we could clean house from top to bottom getting high first round picks for the next three years and still never see the promised land for two or more decades. It's simply hard to win in the NFL unless everything falls your way. The worst coach in the league can win the Championship if luck is on the team's side, while the best in the league may never win one in their career.

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“It’s simply hard to win in the NFL…” I mean, were you actually born bent over with a crack pipe dangling from your lips?

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Typical for you: "I don't know how to fix it, but I'm just going to complain until it's fixed."

You know damn well that if a customer of your business was as unhappy with you as you are with the Saints, they would simply go find another business to fill their needs.

Why don't you go do that? Go be a Chiefs fan. They have the organization you want and the championships you want. Then everyone can all be happy.

And I'm not going to ignore you. You are a pest. I'm just as committed to getting you to understand that we realize that the current iteration of the Saints are a work in progress and that nothing is going to significantly change in the next 6 months of the regular season. So, complaining about the composition of the organization, especially without any plan for correcting it (which you dodged exactly as I predicted), is a complete and utter waste of time.

You've been complaining for 2 years. Nothing about the Saints has changed in two years. So, all your complaining does is give everyone here a headache when all we want to talk about is Saints Football in whatever iteration we are operating in.

I've been going to Saints games and have been a Saints fan since 1972. I saw Archie. I was at the grand opening of the SuperDome. I've suffered the paper bag days, and the 1-15 season when the only team the Saints beat was the New York Jets one snowy Sunday in New York. I was there when the Saints won their first playoff game when Hakim dropped the ball. And followed the team after Katrina devastated the 2005 season. I sat my butt in Chicago in 2006 for the Saints first NFC championship game. And I sure celebrated when they finally won it all in 2009. And every season since up to and including last seasons 9-8 campaign.

This period is just a blip in my Saints history. And when folks keep saying that this iteration of the Saints is the worst they've ever seen, that just means they have not been around long enough to really understand what that means.

So, like Guido, and Rugs, and the others, I look at this season with an eye on improvement. This iteration of the Saints are not going 16-1, #1, NFC championship game and Super Bowl win. But if they can continue to make progress, that makes the season worth watching.

Still waiting for your list of replacements. Since you figure you can complain your way to a championship team, you can also advise Mrs. Benson on exactly how to do that too.

SFIAH

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The Saints had a winning season last year. So, what makes you think this current bunch can't do it again?

You guys are so blind with hate for the current regime you are not even making sense anymore.

SFIAH

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They are blinded by hatred. They make no sense. They, along with the other flunkies, just keep spewing the same hate.

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If I am not mistaken our current leadership has one of the most winning franchises over the past couple of decades. This just shows us all how void of sense to which most of these hater flunkies have been afflicted.

But, great advise, SFIAH! They need to go move their "fandom" to a team that has all of the boxes which they claim to require being checked. Believe me, NONE of us would miss miss them one iota. Regardless of what they may claim they were most likely never a fan of the Saints until they won it all and now turn to hate when it hasn't quickly happened again.

If they do choose to move on all I can say is don't let that door hit you in the ass. There's plenty of real fans looking to enter that swinging door.