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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL No. It's you. You have the binary "Must win championships/Otherwise complete crap" switch that ordinary fans don't have. It's you that doesn't that the ability to read a room and respond accordingly. Why do you respond ...
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Re: Reasons To Be Positive
Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL
This isn’t a glowing endorsement for Dennis Allen. The New Orleans Saints head coach was graded worst among his peers by NBC Sports analyst Patrick Daugherty, clocking in at the bottom of the offseason coach rankings — at least among returning head coaches. The eight first-year coaches were also ranked beneath Allen, but that’s because they’re all relatively unknown quantities.![]()
Unfortunately for Allen, we know exactly what he is and where his shortcomings lie. We’ll let Daugherty explain why Allen was ranked at No. 24 among the 24 head coaches returning from 2023: “We lost a lot of bad coaches last winter. Arthur Smith, Brandon Staley, Josh McDaniels and Ron Rivera send their regards. That means we are left with the merely mediocre to round out our list. No one is more committed to the bit than Dennis Allen. A defensive coordinator trapped in a head coach’s body, Allen has treated Sean Payton’s leftover offense like a museum heirloom that disintegrates if you touch it. This is an attack that hasn’t innovated in three years, right down to banging Alvin Kamara between the tackles for no reason and rushing Taysom Hill onto the field any time there’s a critical down. Well, it’s not entirely true there’s been no innovation. Allen has decided to find out just how boring Drew Brees-style quarterbacking can become. Andy Dalton pushed the envelope in 2022. Derek Carr reached new heights in 2023. Allen, who admittedly takes care of business on defense, has finally moved on from Payton Ball on offense but replaced it with … Kubiak Ball. Not Gary, but Klint. It’s a fine system in a vacuum. It’s also become mummified under Klint, with no new wrinkles inserted since the Peyton Manning days in Denver. Maybe 2023 49ers passing-game coordinator Klint learned something under coach Kyle Shanahan. That’s what the Saints’ season and Allen’s future employment hinges on: This old Kubiak dog picking up some new Shanahan tricks. I suppose there are worse plans, but I’m not seeing many for 2024.” |
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The Professor
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Re: Reasons To Be Positive
Originally Posted by Sinner
This is no longer about the Saints. You don't get to post this without making suggestion about how do you fix it beyond firing Allen and Loomis. I gave you that opportunity before. You declined to engage in it.![]()
I cannot see why you can't figure out that if the only that gets discussed here is how bad the Saints are, and that they should even bother to play the season, then everyone other than you and Mapcow will just leave. Leave you to a desolate wasteland. I guess that's you want: all of us to stay here and join into your misery. Everyone wants to point out all the problems. But no one seems to have any solutions. Did you see any articles from this guy back in January about who the Saints should have hired instead of Kubiak? I really just wish you would take your own advice. You said elsewhere that you wouldn't go to war with disorganized incompetence. You clearly feel that's where the Saints are. So, why don't you just walk away until you see the competence you seek? Come back at the end of the season. SFIAH |
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Re: Reasons To Be Positive
Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL
Derek Carr’s bad habit of throwing short of the sticks has drawn criticism from Saints fans and mockery from his opponents, and the numbers bear it out. Pro Football Reference measures success rate as the percent of plays which gain at least 40% of yards needed on first down, 60% on second down, and 100% on third or fourth down. Carr’s current success rate as a passer is just 43.6%, which ranks 20th among the NFL’s 32 starting quarterbacks.![]()
Look at more comprehensive metrics like quarterback rating (where Carr’s 82.8 grade ranks 20th) or PFR’s adjusted net yards per pass attempt (which has Carr at 23rd, with a 5.2 ANY/A) and you’ll see more of the same: he’s on the wrong end of the spectrum in terms of NFL quarterback play. It wouldn’t be as big an issue if Carr were playing on the modest contract the Saints signed Jameis Winston to; his last two-year, $28 million deal would be more in line with someone performing at Carr’s level. That Carr is instead being paid to play like a fringe top-10 quarterback (his $37.5 million average per-year salary clocks in at 13th) makes it a problem when he’s closer to a bottom-10 passer (his success rate, again, is 20th). If Carr can’t pick it up and meet the expectations set for him, he and his contract are quickly going to become an albatross holding this team back. |
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Re: Reasons To Be Positive
Originally Posted by Sinner
So, I ask as always, what would you have done instead? The Saints lost confidence in JW2. And TH7 had his shot at QB1 and did not make the mark. The Saints did not have a quarterback on the Roster. So, you do you pick instead. What do you pay them.![]()
It's easy to complain about Carr. But it's all a load of crap if you cannot suggest what the Saints should have done instead. You can keep posting this crap all day long. I see that you're just deflecting and not answering any of my questions about why you continue to do this and why would just won't stop. It doesn't matter now about Carr's stats or his salary. That's done. He is QB1 for the Saints right now. He is QB1 for the 2024 squad. All you can do now is suggest what they should have done. But of course you won't do that. It's just so much easier to just complain. SFIAH |
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