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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by AsylumGuido LOL! Tweedledee and Tweedledum. ^^^ See this? This is why we can’t have nice things....

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Old 07-25-2024, 01:04 PM   #91
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Re: ALVIN KAMARA posts cryptic messages on social media amid contract saga

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LOL! Tweedledee and Tweedledum.
^^^ See this? This is why we can’t have nice things.
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Old 07-25-2024, 01:09 PM   #92
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Old 07-25-2024, 01:13 PM   #93
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See? ^^^ Grown @ss Man bringing Nickelodeon to the house.
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Old 07-25-2024, 01:13 PM   #94
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he will step out before taking a hit and definitely will not power through....
Mark Ingram did that. Once.
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Old 07-25-2024, 01:17 PM   #95
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He SAID the opposite. Has this game been reduced to tweets?

I’d like to see BEAST-MODE on the field, not a soft cartoon character dressed up like Deuce.
He didn't just say it, he showed up to camp and practiced. Hard.

Like you, I want to see a more dominant AK. With an improved o line and scheme I'll bet he sees 1,000-1,200 all purpose yards this season.
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Old 07-25-2024, 01:18 PM   #96
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Re: ALVIN KAMARA posts cryptic messages on social media amid contract saga

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^^^ See this? This is why we can’t have nice things.
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Old 07-25-2024, 01:19 PM   #97
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He didn't just say it, he showed up to camp and practiced. Hard.

Like you, I want to see a more dominant AK. With an improved o line and scheme I'll bet he sees 1,000-1,200 all purpose yards this season.
He practiced… hard. Wow.
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Old 07-25-2024, 01:44 PM   #98
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Re: Alvin Kamara Says He Wants To Retire With The New Orleans Saints

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If you actually took the time to read what he said you wouldn't look so foolish. He said nothing about his salary. He actually said he's fine playing out his current deal. He just wants to retire as a Saint and he wants to continue playing past his current contract which effectively ends after 2025. He specifically says he feels he could play another "four or five years". He wants that to be with the Saints. If not he said he'll retire and just move to Africa. Yes he wants more money. Not more than he is already slated to make under his current contract, but whatever he would get for his additional years.
Saying "I want to get paid" and holding out is saying something about his current deal.

Of course Kamara would like to play out his current deal. His current deal pays $25 million in 2025. On the open market he might get something like $8 million. So yes, he would play for 3x what any other team would pay him.

And given that $25 million is so ridiculous, and no team would pay him close to that, of course he would be 'generously' willing to reduce that a little in return for more years. Such as $15 million in 2025, 2026, and 2027 or something so he can 'retire a Saint.'

The thing is that Kamara is 29. He is already under contract for a generous $12 million in 2024. He has shown significant signs of decline. If he wants to take less money in 2025 to avoid being cut thats fine, but if he wants guaranteed in 2026 and beyond thats just not realistic. No NFL team is going to guarantee money 2 years out to a RB who will be 31 and is already declining, with no idea whether he will be a viable starter or some sort of late career Kevin Faulk 3rd down role player or simply not needed if he is passed on the depth chart and his replacement turns out to also be a good pass catcher or he is injured.

Kamara is not underpaid. The Saints can cut him at any time if he declines. He is not being wronged and the Saints have nothing to gain in return by giving him more guarantees, unless in return he will play for a salary that is actually a decent deal, say $7 million per year. It would be massively irresponsible to give Kamara big money like $10 million in 2026 or even to partially guarantee anything in 2026 where he walks away with $5 million if cut in the likely scenario where he is not worth that money then. Giving a 29 year old RB an guarantees for years when he will be 31 or 32 or 33 when he is already declining would be financially irresponsible charity.

If Kamara really wants to be with the Saints in 2026, 2027, 2028 there is nothing that prevents him signing year to year deals that are common for 30 something RBs. If he wants guarantees in those years, the most that would be financially responsible would be to give him $5 million player options, kind of Kevin Faulk money, for those years, that he can opt out of if still a starter, in return for reducing his 2025 salary to $10 million or less with at most half guaranteed.
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Old 07-25-2024, 02:02 PM   #99
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Re: Alvin Kamara Says He Wants To Retire With The New Orleans Saints

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Saying "I want to get paid" and holding out is saying something about his current deal.

Of course Kamara would like to play out his current deal. His current deal pays $25 million in 2025. On the open market he might get something like $8 million. So yes, he would play for 3x what any other team would pay him.

And given that $25 million is so ridiculous, and no team would pay him close to that, of course he would be 'generously' willing to reduce that a little in return for more years. Such as $15 million in 2025, 2026, and 2027 or something so he can 'retire a Saint.'

The thing is that Kamara is 29. He is already under contract for a generous $12 million in 2024. He has shown significant signs of decline. If he wants to take less money in 2025 to avoid being cut thats fine, but if he wants guaranteed in 2026 and beyond thats just not realistic. No NFL team is going to guarantee money 2 years out to a RB who will be 31 and is already declining, with no idea whether he will be a viable starter or some sort of late career Kevin Faulk 3rd down role player or simply not needed if he is passed on the depth chart and his replacement turns out to also be a good pass catcher or he is injured.

Kamara is not underpaid. The Saints can cut him at any time if he declines. He is not being wronged and the Saints have nothing to gain in return by giving him more guarantees, unless in return he will play for a salary that is actually a decent deal, say $7 million per year. It would be massively irresponsible to give Kamara big money like $10 million in 2026 or even to partially guarantee anything in 2026 where he walks away with $5 million if cut in the likely scenario where he is not worth that money then. Giving a 29 year old RB an guarantees for years when he will be 31 or 32 or 33 when he is already declining would be financially irresponsible charity.

If Kamara really wants to be with the Saints in 2026, 2027, 2028 there is nothing that prevents him signing year to year deals that are common for 30 something RBs. If he wants guarantees in those years, the most that would be financially responsible would be to give him $5 million player options, kind of Kevin Faulk money, for those years, that he can opt out of if still a starter, in return for reducing his 2025 salary to $10 million or less with at most half guaranteed.
"wanting to get paid" I believe was in reference to "not losing money via fines for missing practice" (which happened during his last deal)

You have made a solid case for NOT signing Kamara, but you've neglected to provide ANY for extending him.

There are many.

Talent. He still has the skills to be a focal point and matchup nightmare.
Leadership. Take away one, extremely poor, mistake in Vegas, he's a leader on this team.
Potential. In this same style offense, McCaffery just had his best year and he's (*gasp) 28 years old.


To me, that's worth a 3 year $21 M with a void year and $15 M guaranteed.
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Old 07-25-2024, 04:15 PM   #100
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Re: ALVIN KAMARA posts cryptic messages on social media amid contract saga

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LOL! Tweedledee and Tweedledum.
you are such a hater.....smh. i guess haters gonna hate.
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