AsylumGuido

You are so full of crap ... as usual. He didn't say any of those things. You just make crap up.

BakoSaint

If you were overpaid by an comparison to your peers, lets say you were a teacher who made six figures, and your employer was in a budget crisis facing annual restructures to pay the bills, lets say they were having to shut down the art and music programs, and your performance was down lets say the previous year you had been suspended for slapping a student and your classes test scores were down 30% over the last two years, would you skip work and demand a new salary adjustment and to be 'paid.'

Kamara is saying lots. By holding out to any degree he is saying there is something wrong with his salary. By saying he wants to be 'paid' he is saying whats wrong is its not enough. When anyone says he just wants 'guarantees' the reality is that his salary this season is $12 million, which is well above market, and that becomes guaranteed as a veteran if he is on the roster week one. He probably would be lucky to get $12 million in total guarantees over multiple years on the open market. And he only needs to worry about not getting that $12 million if he gets beat out by Miller or Williams in training camp and does not make the team at all. If his worry is about 2025 not having guarantees, why should we guarantee money in 2025 to an aging RB who is worried about making the team in 2024?

The fact is it says a let that a guy who is generously overpaid and hasnt been cut is clearly implying he wants more money. A reasonable contract for Kamara would be something like 2 years $19 million with $12 million guaranteed (about $1 million less than Mixon) or 3 years $24 million with $15 million guaranteed and a salary of $9 million with little or no guarantee in year 3. But considering Kamara's insane contract today with $12 million in 2024 and $25 million in 2025 that would be a big pay cut. I know that nobody is going to pay Kamara $25 million for a year and that is not real, but for appearance purposes when a player wipes out that year they usually like to make it look like a raise by getting more money in the long run win guarantees. The thing is, Kamara's estimated value from overthecap in 2023 was under $6 million. Kamara's entire career from 2025 until retirement is likely not worth close to $25 million even if he plays until 2028 or something. There is no way to cut that $25 million to a realistic value of $7-9 million where he can save face. He is an aging RB who had declined and will likely decline more.

mapcow

your reply is hateful... haters gonna hate.

BakoSaint

I posted an article on my site to put it on the record that I do think Loomis is having a better offseason this year, but that giving in to Kamara will ruin it, blow the Saints salary cap, and mean $50 million a year for Carr and .500 forever.

https://www.firemickeyloomis.com/has...ended-his-ways

MatthewT

Of course AK wants to retire as a Saint, he is a very smart guy and understands there is not a lot of opportunity for seasoned RB's on the open market.

Cruize

He's getting paid per his NFL value. He's not getting 25 mil next year or any other year. No RB is. Just got to find a deal everybody is happy with.

mapcow

anything less than 25 million is still too much! over the top fantastic bank for a thug. cut bait

Sinner

AK said, “I ain't stupid. I ain't going to give no money up. I'm trying to get some money,"

Call me a grouchy geezer, but that doesn’t sound like someone whose priority is to ball for us right now.

This Fanboy culture that Quido perpetuates and promotes, is signaling the organization to move more and more into this “all hype, no BEASTMODE” product placement, which ruins the sport, way more than we naysayers are ruining this forum.

AsylumGuido

He said he's fine to play out his current deal. He's not looking for more, he said. He just wants to be extended.

AsylumGuido

Alvin Kamara on not holding out from Saints training camp amid contract talks: 'I ain't stupid'

Published: Jul 24, 2024 at 03:02 PM

Kevin Patra

New Orleans Saints running back Alvin Kamara left June's mandatory minicamp early while in a contract dispute but reported for training camp this week.

On Wednesday, Kamara did his best Marshawn Lynch impression, admitting he arrived to avoid getting fined $50,000 per day.

"I ain't stupid. I ain't gonna give the money up," Kamara said. "I'm trying to get some money, right? I was gonna be here. It's no one that has a jersey on, I wouldn't even blame any coaches [with] what's going on with contract issues right now. This happens all across the league. It's happened here. It's happened everywhere. People trying to get contracts, trying to get paid. I'll be a fool to spite my teammates because of a dispute I'm having with upstairs. I wouldn't even call it a dispute. We're just having conversations about compensation. … I'm not that guy. I'm for the team. So I'm here, I'm doing what I've got to do. I'm working."

Karmara admitted his early departure from minicamp last month came after he got no traction on his contract concerns.

"Trying to get a contract done, and it just ain't been nothing happening," he said. "Ain't been no real conversations or, I would say, worthy conversations of contract. So that last day was just me saying… I think there was a misconception about 'Oh well, Alvin didn't say anything about a contract,' which I never do really. It's just you know it's time. We've been talking about it a little bit. It hasn't been anything really meaningful. It's been kinda one side where they at, and I'm kinda like, 'Eh, nah.' So I went to the crib."

Turning 29 on Thursday, Kamara is set to earn $10.2 million in base salary this season, with just $1 million guaranteed. His 2025 base salary of $22.4 million with no guaranteed dollars is an inflated figure he's unlikely ever to see.

Kamara reiterated that his goal is to play his entire career in New Orleans.

"I've said it before: I want to be a Saint," he added. "You know what I'm saying? I want to retire here. If I gotta play football somewhere else, I'll probably be somewhere with my feet kicked up in Africa somewhere, or something like that."

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