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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by AsylumGuido You are so full of crap ... as usual. He didn't say any of those things. You just make crap up. If you were overpaid by an comparison to your peers, lets say you were a ...
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07-25-2024, 10:51 AM | #71 |
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Re: Alvin Kamara Says He Wants To Retire With The New Orleans Saints
Originally Posted by AsylumGuido
If you were overpaid by an comparison to your peers, lets say you were a teacher who made six figures, and your employer was in a budget crisis facing annual restructures to pay the bills, lets say they were having to shut down the art and music programs, and your performance was down lets say the previous year you had been suspended for slapping a student and your classes test scores were down 30% over the last two years, would you skip work and demand a new salary adjustment and to be 'paid.'
Kamara is saying lots. By holding out to any degree he is saying there is something wrong with his salary. By saying he wants to be 'paid' he is saying whats wrong is its not enough. When anyone says he just wants 'guarantees' the reality is that his salary this season is $12 million, which is well above market, and that becomes guaranteed as a veteran if he is on the roster week one. He probably would be lucky to get $12 million in total guarantees over multiple years on the open market. And he only needs to worry about not getting that $12 million if he gets beat out by Miller or Williams in training camp and does not make the team at all. If his worry is about 2025 not having guarantees, why should we guarantee money in 2025 to an aging RB who is worried about making the team in 2024? The fact is it says a let that a guy who is generously overpaid and hasnt been cut is clearly implying he wants more money. A reasonable contract for Kamara would be something like 2 years $19 million with $12 million guaranteed (about $1 million less than Mixon) or 3 years $24 million with $15 million guaranteed and a salary of $9 million with little or no guarantee in year 3. But considering Kamara's insane contract today with $12 million in 2024 and $25 million in 2025 that would be a big pay cut. I know that nobody is going to pay Kamara $25 million for a year and that is not real, but for appearance purposes when a player wipes out that year they usually like to make it look like a raise by getting more money in the long run win guarantees. The thing is, Kamara's estimated value from overthecap in 2023 was under $6 million. Kamara's entire career from 2025 until retirement is likely not worth close to $25 million even if he plays until 2028 or something. There is no way to cut that $25 million to a realistic value of $7-9 million where he can save face. He is an aging RB who had declined and will likely decline more. |
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Re: Alvin Kamara Says He Wants To Retire With The New Orleans Saints
Originally Posted by BakoSaint
If you actually took the time to read what he said you wouldn't look so foolish. He said nothing about his salary. He actually said he's fine playing out his current deal. He just wants to retire as a Saint and he wants to continue playing past his current contract which effectively ends after 2025. He specifically says he feels he could play another "four or five years". He wants that to be with the Saints. If not he said he'll retire and just move to Africa. Yes he wants more money. Not more than he is already slated to make under his current contract, but whatever he would get for his additional years.
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07-25-2024, 11:12 AM | #73 |
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07-25-2024, 11:27 AM | #75 |
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Re: Saints RB Alvin Kamara invokes an NFL legend to explain why he reported to training camp
Originally Posted by mapcow
AK said, “I ain't stupid. I ain't going to give no money up. I'm trying to get some money,"
Call me a grouchy geezer, but that doesn’t sound like someone whose priority is to ball for us right now. This Fanboy culture that Quido perpetuates and promotes, is signaling the organization to move more and more into this “all hype, no BEASTMODE” product placement, which ruins the sport, way more than we naysayers are ruining this forum. |
07-25-2024, 11:41 AM | #76 |
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Re: AK QUOTE OF THE DAY…
Here is the rest of his quote. Very next sentence:
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07-25-2024, 11:53 AM | #77 |
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Re: AK QUOTE OF THE DAY…
Originally Posted by saintsfan1976
His words need to translate into actions on the field this year. That remains to be seen.
His QB’s words don’t translate to anything we can rely on on the field. That has been proven time and time again. He’s a dud. |
07-25-2024, 12:11 PM | #78 |
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Re: AK QUOTE OF THE DAY…
What was the exact quote the sinner guy posted? I posted the entire text of Kamara's reply earlier today with the part you included, sf76, in the Kamara thread and there was nothing that I would judge as inflammatory. I do, however, see how it could be taken out of context if cherry-picked.
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Re: AK QUOTE OF THE DAY…
Football is a team sport let's get a solid oline and some solid playcalling and see what happens
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