Honey Badger: Elite ot too old?

mapcow · 08-03-2024, 08:35 AM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

https://twitter.com/BridgetCondon_/s...77967531397126

Hopefully it is the right attitude...winning, pride, strength... not settling for the paycheck sorta thing.

Rugby Saint II · 08-03-2024, 07:28 PM

Originally Posted by mapcow

your opinion... i have my own... which is right by the way

Neither one of us is right or wrong. I'm not disrespecting your opinion. You have yours and I have mine. No one is right all the time. It's not a question of right or wrong. It's about polite civil debates. Maybe we can meet in the middle and keep our self respect. Who Dat!

mapcow · 08-03-2024, 07:33 PM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

Neither one of us is right or wrong. I'm not disrespecting your opinion. You have yours and I have mine. No one is right all the time. It's not a question of right or wrong. It's about polite civil debates. Maybe we can meet in the middle and keep our self respect. Who Dat!

i have plenty of self respect thank you, as I am sure you do. I am just more confident in my opinion. don't fret...

we dat!

Cruize · 08-06-2024, 08:46 AM

He will get some opportunities this year to make some plays. The CB's will largely have their guys on lock down. I can see him having six interceptions this season. The defense is legit.

mapcow · 08-06-2024, 09:15 AM

Originally Posted by Cruize

He will get some opportunities this year to make some plays. The CB's will largely have their guys on lock down. I can see him having six interceptions this season. The defense is legit.

six interceptions... highly unlikely. He will not even "stick" the receiver anymore. Too old.

BakoSaint · 08-06-2024, 09:22 AM

The production of the defense will depend on whether the defensive line can pressure the QB and/or stop the run. Pressures lead to INT's. Chase Young obviously has great talent but its never been totally clear if he is the same after injury and his effort has been questioned. Cam Jordan at an advanced age coming off a season stolen by a secret twisted ankle that is 100% better and is absolutely the worst injury to have at that age but fortunately never recurs or leads to worse injury is a big question mark. Payton Turner can't stay healthy. Everyone else on the dline has never been better than mediocre. And our linebackers are not known for pass rush. So are many INT's possible? Sure. But we would have to pressure the QB. Maybe the quietest subject in Saints history needs to be brought up: If Bresee doesn't start he is a bust no matter how he 'looks.' You don't spend 1st round picks on year 2 backups.

rezburna · 08-06-2024, 10:43 AM

Originally Posted by BakoSaint

The production of the defense will depend on whether the defensive line can pressure the QB and/or stop the run. Pressures lead to INT's. Chase Young obviously has great talent but its never been totally clear if he is the same after injury and his effort has been questioned. Cam Jordan at an advanced age coming off a season stolen by a secret twisted ankle that is 100% better and is absolutely the worst injury to have at that age but fortunately never recurs or leads to worse injury is a big question mark. Payton Turner can't stay healthy. Everyone else on the dline has never been better than mediocre. And our linebackers are not known for pass rush. So are many INT's possible? Sure. But we would have to pressure the QB. Maybe the quietest subject in Saints history needs to be brought up: If Bresee doesn't start he is a bust no matter how he 'looks.' You don't spend 1st round picks on year 2 backups.

Saints were 7th in interceptions and only 23rd in sacks. Pressure helps create turnovers, but it isn’t a necessary component.

08-03-2024, 08:35 AM	#11
mapcow Just a Fan Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 1,681	Re: Honey Badger: Elite ot too old? Originally Posted by AsylumGuido https://twitter.com/BridgetCondon_/s...77967531397126 Hopefully it is the right attitude...winning, pride, strength... not settling for the paycheck sorta thing.
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08-03-2024, 07:28 PM	#12
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 23,940	Re: Honey Badger: Elite ot too old? Originally Posted by mapcow your opinion... i have my own... which is right by the way Neither one of us is right or wrong. I'm not disrespecting your opinion. You have yours and I have mine. No one is right all the time. It's not a question of right or wrong. It's about polite civil debates. Maybe we can meet in the middle and keep our self respect. Who Dat!

08-03-2024, 07:33 PM	#13
mapcow Just a Fan Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 1,681	Re: Honey Badger: Elite ot too old? Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II Neither one of us is right or wrong. I'm not disrespecting your opinion. You have yours and I have mine. No one is right all the time. It's not a question of right or wrong. It's about polite civil debates. Maybe we can meet in the middle and keep our self respect. Who Dat! i have plenty of self respect thank you, as I am sure you do. I am just more confident in my opinion. don't fret... we dat!
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08-06-2024, 08:46 AM	#14
Cruize 1000 Posts + Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 4,414	Re: Honey Badger: Elite ot too old? He will get some opportunities this year to make some plays. The CB's will largely have their guys on lock down. I can see him having six interceptions this season. The defense is legit.
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08-06-2024, 09:15 AM	#15
mapcow Just a Fan Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 1,681	Re: Honey Badger: Elite ot too old? Originally Posted by Cruize He will get some opportunities this year to make some plays. The CB's will largely have their guys on lock down. I can see him having six interceptions this season. The defense is legit. six interceptions... highly unlikely. He will not even "stick" the receiver anymore. Too old.
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08-06-2024, 09:22 AM	#16
BakoSaint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Dec 2018 Posts: 1,958	Re: Honey Badger: Elite ot too old? The production of the defense will depend on whether the defensive line can pressure the QB and/or stop the run. Pressures lead to INT's. Chase Young obviously has great talent but its never been totally clear if he is the same after injury and his effort has been questioned. Cam Jordan at an advanced age coming off a season stolen by a secret twisted ankle that is 100% better and is absolutely the worst injury to have at that age but fortunately never recurs or leads to worse injury is a big question mark. Payton Turner can't stay healthy. Everyone else on the dline has never been better than mediocre. And our linebackers are not known for pass rush. So are many INT's possible? Sure. But we would have to pressure the QB. Maybe the quietest subject in Saints history needs to be brought up: If Bresee doesn't start he is a bust no matter how he 'looks.' You don't spend 1st round picks on year 2 backups.
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08-06-2024, 10:43 AM	#17
rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 7,792	Re: Honey Badger: Elite ot too old? Originally Posted by BakoSaint The production of the defense will depend on whether the defensive line can pressure the QB and/or stop the run. Pressures lead to INT's. Chase Young obviously has great talent but its never been totally clear if he is the same after injury and his effort has been questioned. Cam Jordan at an advanced age coming off a season stolen by a secret twisted ankle that is 100% better and is absolutely the worst injury to have at that age but fortunately never recurs or leads to worse injury is a big question mark. Payton Turner can't stay healthy. Everyone else on the dline has never been better than mediocre. And our linebackers are not known for pass rush. So are many INT's possible? Sure. But we would have to pressure the QB. Maybe the quietest subject in Saints history needs to be brought up: If Bresee doesn't start he is a bust no matter how he 'looks.' You don't spend 1st round picks on year 2 backups. Saints were 7th in interceptions and only 23rd in sacks. Pressure helps create turnovers, but it isn’t a necessary component. AsylumGuido likes this.