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rezburna 08-11-2024 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by voodooido (Post 999041)
You have to remember, he is playing against guys who will be bagging our groceries in a couple weeks.

It isn’t always about that when you know what to look for. He goes through his reads. He makes his decisions quickly. He scrambles efficiently, effectively, and with purpose. His throwing motion is pure and his arm talent is evident. That back shoulder throw was flick of the wrist and right on the money. The receiver was covered. Doesn’t matter by who. He still threw him open. Of course you want to see him against better competition but you also want to see him better complimentary pieces as well. Guarantee the run game opens up when he’s behind center.

Sinner 08-11-2024 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 999048)
It isn’t always about that when you know what to look for. He goes through his reads. He makes his decisions quickly. He scrambles efficiently, effectively, and with purpose. His throwing motion is pure and his arm talent is evident. That back shoulder throw was flick of the wrist and right on the money. The receiver was covered. Doesn’t matter by who. He still threw him open. Of course you want to see him against better competition but you also want to see him better complimentary pieces as well. Guarantee the run game opens up when he’s behind center.

THIS^^^ That right there is what I have been trying to say for a long time. “When you know what to look for”… It doesn’t matter how solid or broken the O-Line might be, or who the Offensive Coordinator is… there are tangible (and intangible) aspects that tell you all you need to know about Carr as opposed to Rattler. You can see it with your eyes and feel it in your gut. The same thing can be said for Dennis Allen, as opposed to a real Head Coach with presence and fire.

Y’all who defend these positions simply because of the financial commitment and/or weird dysfunctional ties to our accepted mismanagement, are simply showing your loyalty to the front office.

voodooido 08-11-2024 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 999042)
Rattler is a legit NFL QB prospect with the tools.

He made the most of the opportunity regardless of who he faced. We couldn't say that with Ian Book :rolleyes:.

With his skill set, he'll likely surpass Haener and in a year probably compete for Carr's job.

For where he was drafted, terrific value.

I don’t doubt he has everything it takes. I’m just not getting a hard one after playing against 5th stringers

K Major 08-11-2024 11:11 PM

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K Major 08-11-2024 11:23 PM

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voodooido 08-12-2024 09:14 AM

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I know it is only one game, but from what I have seen we have all the talent needed to be an explosive offense. But with no offensive line they won’t have the time to prove it. I’m not sure I’ve ever seen a worse line.

rezburna 08-12-2024 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by voodooido (Post 999065)
I know it is only one game, but from what I have seen we have all the talent needed to be an explosive offense. But with no offensive line they won’t have the time to prove it. I’m not sure I’ve ever seen a worse line.

The line is definitely a major red flag. Donovan Smith, David Bakhtiari, or Cam Erving even…all available. It’s mostly RT too be honest. Penning so trash.

BakoSaint 08-12-2024 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 999066)
The line is definitely a major red flag. Donovan Smith, David Bakhtiari, or Cam Erving even…all available. It’s mostly RT too be honest. Penning so trash.

Unfortunately Cam Erving signed with the Texans for $1.2 million. He was our starter at the end of the year, he was clearly better than anyone on the roster at his position, we did not know if we would be able to replace him in the draft, and the cost was $1.2 million. We passed because he was part of the lineup that defied DA's call on the last play of the season, and we got rid of any of those players who did not come with a big dead cap to get rid of. Thats why both Peat and Erving are gone. It could be a factor in Hurst's retirement. Ultimately DA's pride may cost Carr his neck.

WW_Who_Dat 08-12-2024 10:16 AM

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On one play Penning was backpedaling off balance and going down with very little contact … horrible. Looked effective on run blocking but he had a 20% pressure rate on his snaps … There will be QB pain if this does not resolve itself in the next 3 weeks.

K Major 08-12-2024 10:34 AM

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That man is gonna get Carr folded in half.

He’s a bust.


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