'24-'25 Saints Bold Predictions

saintsfan1976 · 08-29-2024, 06:59 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Really can't see anything off with any of these.

I'll add we win at least 12 games agreeing with K (20-0 Baby!).

Win the NFC South.

Some days I'm at 12 wins, others I'm at 6. Ready to see them in real action.

cmike · 08-29-2024, 07:27 PM

Carr leaves too much meat on the bone.
He has a Pro Bowl caliber ‘24 - ‘25 season.
Now a MVP type season would be nice but that’s an insane prediction.

AsylumGuido · 08-29-2024, 07:57 PM

Originally Posted by cmike

Carr leaves too much meat on the bone.
He has a Pro Bowl caliber ‘24 - ‘25 season.
Now a MVP type season would be nice but that’s an insane prediction.

Agree with this. Carr has always been conservative. That's why he has one of the lowest interception rates in NFL history. Also why he has one of the best completion percentages. He needs to force it more. Trust himself and his receivers.

saintsfan1976 · 08-30-2024, 08:37 AM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Agree with this. Carr has always been conservative. That's why he has one of the lowest interception rates in NFL history. Also why he has one of the best completion percentages. He needs to force it more. Trust himself and his receivers.

Over the last 10 years, Derek Carr has thrown 107 interceptions, which ties him with Matt Stafford for MOST INTS thrown by an NFL QB.

While true, his "INT % Rate" (1.9%) does rank him in the top 6 QBs , that's because he also leads the NFL in "Pass Attempts" at 5,506.

https://www.statmuse.com/nfl/ask/mos...-last-10-years

Sinner · 08-30-2024, 08:52 AM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

So, if that has a "beautiful ring to it" you must be really wanting things to go terribly wrong with Carr in there, no? Come now, I thought you wanted us to win. You showed real promise there for a second, Sin. I actually thought you cared more about my Saints than your personal agenda.

I began to put my personal agenda aside after 2010. So did the Saints.

SmashMouth · 08-30-2024, 08:56 AM

Holker develops into a top tier NFL TE, since our other TEs are oft injured, besides Taysom.
Rico becomes a key contributor on defense.
Newly signed OT Deculus from LSU shines as a RT.
Kendre Miller recovers as an oft injured player forming a formidable dual headed monster with Kamara.
Chase Young makes us forget about WTFoskey !
Saints improvements under Kubiak catapult the Saints into early NFC South division winners as the rest of the NFC South falters and becomes the worst division in football.
A freak unfortunate injury to Carr (not wishing for it) catapults the Bayou Rattler into stardom, a la Tom Brady when he took over for Drew Bledsoe in New England.
Our Irish kicker makes NFL history in making a 68 yard FG to win a game, eclipsing the fraudulent record made at Mile High Stadium.
Saints set an NFL record with 6 special teams TDs on returns.
Honey Badger has his most productive season in his career fueled with the best talent he's played with on defense.
And last but not least, Saints defense becomes elite showcasing a top 5 stingy unit, one worthy of earning a nickname.

Boston Saint · 08-30-2024, 09:04 AM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

Over the last 10 years, Derek Carr has thrown 107 interceptions, which ties him with Matt Stafford for MOST INTS thrown by an NFL QB.

While true, his "INT % Rate" (1.9%) does rank him in the top 6 QBs , that's because he also leads the NFL in "Pass Attempts" at 5,506.

https://www.statmuse.com/nfl/ask/mos...-last-10-years

This is rather misleading as well. Many starting QBs haven’t even been in the league 10 years. Carr is high on the TD list if you go back that far….

https://www.statmuse.com/nfl/ask/mos...-last-10-years

SmashMouth · 08-30-2024, 09:10 AM

Originally Posted by Boston Saint

This is rather misleading as well. Many starting QBs haven’t even been in the league 10 years. Carr is high on the TD list if you go back that far….

https://www.statmuse.com/nfl/ask/mos...-last-10-years

If one goes back 5 more years, Andy Dalton has more TDs.
https://www.statmuse.com/nfl/ask/mos...-last-15-years
It also shows he's average. Average is better than bad, but it's not top tier which is what you need when the rest of the team isn't as good (As Brees and Brady showcased, Mahomes too now) .

Boston Saint · 08-30-2024, 09:23 AM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

If one goes back 5 more years, Andy Dalton has more TDs.
https://www.statmuse.com/nfl/ask/mos...-last-15-years
It also shows he's average. Average is better than bad, but it's not top tier which is what you need when the rest of the team isn't as good (As Brees and Brady showcased, Mahomes too now) .

Sure, but that’s because Dalton played in 11 more games over that 15 years span. Those 11 games allowed him to throw four more touchdowns. Dalton and Carr’s TD percentages are virtually the same. Their INT percentages are not. Thats why I called it misleading.

And I’m certainly not putting Carr in the Mahomes greatness category. But I believe Guido’s point is valid in that he is not an interception machine. In fact, he’s never had a season with more interceptions than touchdowns. Lots of HOF QBs can’t make that same statement.

Sinner · 08-30-2024, 09:55 AM

Originally Posted by Boston Saint

Sure, but that’s because Dalton played in 11 more games over that 15 years span. Those 11 games allowed him to throw four more touchdowns. Dalton and Carr’s TD percentages are virtually the same. Their INT percentages are not. Thats why I called it misleading.

And I’m certainly not putting Carr in the Mahomes greatness category. But I believe Guido’s point is valid in that he is not an interception machine. In fact, he’s never had a season with more interceptions than touchdowns. Lots of HOF QBs can’t make that same statement.

Don’t y’all ever get tired of trying to prove that we $uck less than some others?

08-29-2024, 06:59 PM	#11
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,837 Blog Entries: 3	Re: '24-'25 Saints Bold Predictions Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Really can't see anything off with any of these. I'll add we win at least 12 games agreeing with K (20-0 Baby!). Win the NFC South. Some days I'm at 12 wins, others I'm at 6. Ready to see them in real action. AsylumGuido likes this.

08-29-2024, 07:27 PM	#12
cmike 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Gulfport Posts: 1,429	Re: '24-'25 Saints Bold Predictions Carr leaves too much meat on the bone. He has a Pro Bowl caliber ‘24 - ‘25 season. Now a MVP type season would be nice but that’s an insane prediction.

08-29-2024, 07:57 PM	#13
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,247	Re: '24-'25 Saints Bold Predictions Originally Posted by cmike Carr leaves too much meat on the bone. He has a Pro Bowl caliber ‘24 - ‘25 season. Now a MVP type season would be nice but that’s an insane prediction. Agree with this. Carr has always been conservative. That's why he has one of the lowest interception rates in NFL history. Also why he has one of the best completion percentages. He needs to force it more. Trust himself and his receivers.

08-30-2024, 08:37 AM	#14
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,837 Blog Entries: 3	Re: '24-'25 Saints Bold Predictions Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Agree with this. Carr has always been conservative. That's why he has one of the lowest interception rates in NFL history. Also why he has one of the best completion percentages. He needs to force it more. Trust himself and his receivers. Over the last 10 years, Derek Carr has thrown 107 interceptions, which ties him with Matt Stafford for MOST INTS thrown by an NFL QB. While true, his "INT % Rate" (1.9%) does rank him in the top 6 QBs , that's because he also leads the NFL in "Pass Attempts" at 5,506. https://www.statmuse.com/nfl/ask/mos...-last-10-years jnormand, leilung, SmashMouth and 1 others like this.

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Sinner 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 3,900	Re: '24-'25 Saints Bold Predictions Originally Posted by AsylumGuido So, if that has a "beautiful ring to it" you must be really wanting things to go terribly wrong with Carr in there, no? Come now, I thought you wanted us to win. You showed real promise there for a second, Sin. I actually thought you cared more about my Saints than your personal agenda. I began to put my personal agenda aside after 2010. So did the Saints.
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08-30-2024, 08:56 AM	#16
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,136 Blog Entries: 29	Re: '24-'25 Saints Bold Predictions Holker develops into a top tier NFL TE, since our other TEs are oft injured, besides Taysom. Rico becomes a key contributor on defense. Newly signed OT Deculus from LSU shines as a RT. Kendre Miller recovers as an oft injured player forming a formidable dual headed monster with Kamara. Chase Young makes us forget about WTFoskey ! Saints improvements under Kubiak catapult the Saints into early NFC South division winners as the rest of the NFC South falters and becomes the worst division in football. A freak unfortunate injury to Carr (not wishing for it) catapults the Bayou Rattler into stardom, a la Tom Brady when he took over for Drew Bledsoe in New England. Our Irish kicker makes NFL history in making a 68 yard FG to win a game, eclipsing the fraudulent record made at Mile High Stadium. Saints set an NFL record with 6 special teams TDs on returns. Honey Badger has his most productive season in his career fueled with the best talent he's played with on defense. And last but not least, Saints defense becomes elite showcasing a top 5 stingy unit, one worthy of earning a nickname. Rugby Saint II likes this.

08-30-2024, 09:04 AM	#17
Boston Saint 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 5,137	Re: '24-'25 Saints Bold Predictions Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 Over the last 10 years, Derek Carr has thrown 107 interceptions, which ties him with Matt Stafford for MOST INTS thrown by an NFL QB. While true, his "INT % Rate" (1.9%) does rank him in the top 6 QBs , that's because he also leads the NFL in "Pass Attempts" at 5,506. https://www.statmuse.com/nfl/ask/mos...-last-10-years This is rather misleading as well. Many starting QBs haven’t even been in the league 10 years. Carr is high on the TD list if you go back that far…. https://www.statmuse.com/nfl/ask/mos...-last-10-years jnormand and saintsfan1976 like this.

08-30-2024, 09:10 AM	#18
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,136 Blog Entries: 29	Re: '24-'25 Saints Bold Predictions Originally Posted by Boston Saint This is rather misleading as well. Many starting QBs haven’t even been in the league 10 years. Carr is high on the TD list if you go back that far…. https://www.statmuse.com/nfl/ask/mos...-last-10-years If one goes back 5 more years, Andy Dalton has more TDs. https://www.statmuse.com/nfl/ask/mos...-last-15-years It also shows he's average. Average is better than bad, but it's not top tier which is what you need when the rest of the team isn't as good (As Brees and Brady showcased, Mahomes too now) . jnormand, Sinner and K Major like this.

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Boston Saint 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 5,137	Re: '24-'25 Saints Bold Predictions Originally Posted by SmashMouth If one goes back 5 more years, Andy Dalton has more TDs. https://www.statmuse.com/nfl/ask/mos...-last-15-years It also shows he's average. Average is better than bad, but it's not top tier which is what you need when the rest of the team isn't as good (As Brees and Brady showcased, Mahomes too now) . Sure, but that’s because Dalton played in 11 more games over that 15 years span. Those 11 games allowed him to throw four more touchdowns. Dalton and Carr’s TD percentages are virtually the same. Their INT percentages are not. Thats why I called it misleading. And I’m certainly not putting Carr in the Mahomes greatness category. But I believe Guido’s point is valid in that he is not an interception machine. In fact, he’s never had a season with more interceptions than touchdowns. Lots of HOF QBs can’t make that same statement. jnormand and Rugby Saint II like this.

08-30-2024, 09:55 AM	#20
Sinner 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 3,900	Re: '24-'25 Saints Bold Predictions Originally Posted by Boston Saint Sure, but that’s because Dalton played in 11 more games over that 15 years span. Those 11 games allowed him to throw four more touchdowns. Dalton and Carr’s TD percentages are virtually the same. Their INT percentages are not. Thats why I called it misleading. And I’m certainly not putting Carr in the Mahomes greatness category. But I believe Guido’s point is valid in that he is not an interception machine. In fact, he’s never had a season with more interceptions than touchdowns. Lots of HOF QBs can’t make that same statement. Don’t y’all ever get tired of trying to prove that we $uck less than some others? SmashMouth likes this.
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