But that's the point. You had already made your mind up and was on here bashing them both before a single game was ever played. That is not being rational or objective. It is being emotional and preconceived. On the other hand I see Dennis Allen putting one of the best defenses in the league on the field. I see him dumping the Carmichael led offense this season in favor of one better suited to utilizing all of our weapons. Judgement is out until it truly hits the field. That's how you correctly analyze and and judge objectively.

As for Carr, no he isn't elite, none but a very small handful are across the NFL. But what he is is better than most, average at worst. Replacing him now is just as likely going to be with someone inferior, for the short term and likely the long term.

Don't fool yourself. We can all see it. It is hatred you exhibit toward both Carr and Allen. Constant name calling and belittling is telltale. Nothing objective there, at all. Just calling it like most of us out here see it, Sin.

What I see having dropped you from "ignore" is that you haven't changed your ways at all. You are still hijacking every thread with the same monotonous venom with no possible result other than pissing off and running off other members that come here to honestly talk about their Saints. Most fans across the league begin a new season with excitement and high hopes, not blatant hate mongering.