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papz 08-29-2024 07:58 AM

'24-'25 Saints Bold Predictions
 
Rashid Shaheed and Chris Olave both go over 1,000 yards receiving.

Saints finish top 10 in rushing yards.

Chase Young and Carl Granderson both end up with double digit sacks.

Taysom Hill makes the Pro Bowl.

Dennis Allen gets to coach another season.

K Major 08-29-2024 08:11 AM

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Saints will win 12 regular season games, NFC south & a playoff game.

papz 08-29-2024 08:12 AM

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That's spicy.

WW_Who_Dat 08-29-2024 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by papz (Post 1000085)
That's spicy.

I like Spicy!:bng:

saintsfan1976 08-29-2024 12:25 PM

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Carr benched

Rattler shines

Defense gives up 17pts per game

Kamara tops 1,500 apyds

I like the Rashid Olvae 2,000 yd combo

Matthew Hayball makes the Probowl

Sinner 08-29-2024 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 (Post 1000095)
Carr benched

Rattler shines

Defense gives up 17pts per game

Kamara tops 1,500 apyds

I like the Rashid Olvae 2,000 yd combo

Matthew Hayball makes the Probowl

“Carr benched…” That has such a beautiful ring to it. 😁

Cruize 08-29-2024 04:09 PM

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Super Bowl. I ain't scared. WHO DAT!

AsylumGuido 08-29-2024 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Sinner (Post 1000096)
“Carr benched…” That has such a beautiful ring to it. 😁

So, if that has a "beautiful ring to it" you must be really wanting things to go terribly wrong with Carr in there, no? Come now, I thought you wanted us to win. You showed real promise there for a second, Sin. I actually thought you cared more about my Saints than your personal agenda. ;)

:p

AsylumGuido 08-29-2024 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by papz (Post 1000083)
Rashid Shaheed and Chris Olave both go over 1,000 yards receiving.

Saints finish top 10 in rushing yards.

Chase Young and Carl Granderson both end up with double digit sacks.

Taysom Hill makes the Pro Bowl.

Dennis Allen gets to coach another season.

Really can't see anything off with any of these.

I'll add we win at least 12 games agreeing with K (20-0 Baby!). ;)

Win the NFC South.

Boston Saint 08-29-2024 05:17 PM

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Saints finish last in NFCW.

saintsfan1976 08-29-2024 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 1000116)
Really can't see anything off with any of these.

I'll add we win at least 12 games agreeing with K (20-0 Baby!). ;)

Win the NFC South.

Some days I'm at 12 wins, others I'm at 6. Ready to see them in real action.

cmike 08-29-2024 06:27 PM

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Carr leaves too much meat on the bone.
He has a Pro Bowl caliber ‘24 - ‘25 season.
Now a MVP type season would be nice but that’s an insane prediction.

AsylumGuido 08-29-2024 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by cmike (Post 1000120)
Carr leaves too much meat on the bone.
He has a Pro Bowl caliber ‘24 - ‘25 season.
Now a MVP type season would be nice but that’s an insane prediction.

Agree with this. Carr has always been conservative. That's why he has one of the lowest interception rates in NFL history. Also why he has one of the best completion percentages. He needs to force it more. Trust himself and his receivers.

saintsfan1976 08-30-2024 07:37 AM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 1000121)
Agree with this. Carr has always been conservative. That's why he has one of the lowest interception rates in NFL history. Also why he has one of the best completion percentages. He needs to force it more. Trust himself and his receivers.

https://developmenteducation.ie/wp-c...misleading.png

Over the last 10 years, Derek Carr has thrown 107 interceptions, which ties him with Matt Stafford for MOST INTS thrown by an NFL QB.

While true, his "INT % Rate" (1.9%) does rank him in the top 6 QBs , that's because he also leads the NFL in "Pass Attempts" at 5,506.


https://www.statmuse.com/nfl/ask/mos...-last-10-years

Sinner 08-30-2024 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 1000115)
So, if that has a "beautiful ring to it" you must be really wanting things to go terribly wrong with Carr in there, no? Come now, I thought you wanted us to win. You showed real promise there for a second, Sin. I actually thought you cared more about my Saints than your personal agenda. ;)

:p

I began to put my personal agenda aside after 2010. So did the Saints.

SmashMouth 08-30-2024 07:56 AM

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Holker develops into a top tier NFL TE, since our other TEs are oft injured, besides Taysom.
Rico becomes a key contributor on defense.
Newly signed OT Deculus from LSU shines as a RT.
Kendre Miller recovers as an oft injured player forming a formidable dual headed monster with Kamara.
Chase Young makes us forget about WTFoskey !
Saints improvements under Kubiak catapult the Saints into early NFC South division winners as the rest of the NFC South falters and becomes the worst division in football.
A freak unfortunate injury to Carr (not wishing for it) catapults the Bayou Rattler into stardom, a la Tom Brady when he took over for Drew Bledsoe in New England.
Our Irish kicker makes NFL history in making a 68 yard FG to win a game, eclipsing the fraudulent record made at Mile High Stadium.
Saints set an NFL record with 6 special teams TDs on returns.
Honey Badger has his most productive season in his career fueled with the best talent he's played with on defense.
And last but not least, Saints defense becomes elite showcasing a top 5 stingy unit, one worthy of earning a nickname.


:bng:

Boston Saint 08-30-2024 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 (Post 1000122)
https://developmenteducation.ie/wp-c...misleading.png

Over the last 10 years, Derek Carr has thrown 107 interceptions, which ties him with Matt Stafford for MOST INTS thrown by an NFL QB.

While true, his "INT % Rate" (1.9%) does rank him in the top 6 QBs , that's because he also leads the NFL in "Pass Attempts" at 5,506.


https://www.statmuse.com/nfl/ask/mos...-last-10-years

This is rather misleading as well. Many starting QBs haven’t even been in the league 10 years. Carr is high on the TD list if you go back that far….

https://www.statmuse.com/nfl/ask/mos...-last-10-years

SmashMouth 08-30-2024 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Boston Saint (Post 1000126)
This is rather misleading as well. Many starting QBs haven’t even been in the league 10 years. Carr is high on the TD list if you go back that far….

https://www.statmuse.com/nfl/ask/mos...-last-10-years

If one goes back 5 more years, Andy Dalton has more TDs.
https://www.statmuse.com/nfl/ask/mos...-last-15-years
It also shows he's average. Average is better than bad, but it's not top tier which is what you need when the rest of the team isn't as good (As Brees and Brady showcased, Mahomes too now) .

Boston Saint 08-30-2024 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 1000127)
If one goes back 5 more years, Andy Dalton has more TDs.
https://www.statmuse.com/nfl/ask/mos...-last-15-years
It also shows he's average. Average is better than bad, but it's not top tier which is what you need when the rest of the team isn't as good (As Brees and Brady showcased, Mahomes too now) .

Sure, but that’s because Dalton played in 11 more games over that 15 years span. Those 11 games allowed him to throw four more touchdowns. Dalton and Carr’s TD percentages are virtually the same. Their INT percentages are not. Thats why I called it misleading.

And I’m certainly not putting Carr in the Mahomes greatness category. But I believe Guido’s point is valid in that he is not an interception machine. In fact, he’s never had a season with more interceptions than touchdowns. Lots of HOF QBs can’t make that same statement.

Sinner 08-30-2024 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Boston Saint (Post 1000128)
Sure, but that’s because Dalton played in 11 more games over that 15 years span. Those 11 games allowed him to throw four more touchdowns. Dalton and Carr’s TD percentages are virtually the same. Their INT percentages are not. Thats why I called it misleading.

And I’m certainly not putting Carr in the Mahomes greatness category. But I believe Guido’s point is valid in that he is not an interception machine. In fact, he’s never had a season with more interceptions than touchdowns. Lots of HOF QBs can’t make that same statement.

Don’t y’all ever get tired of trying to prove that we $uck less than some others?

AsylumGuido 08-30-2024 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 1000127)
If one goes back 5 more years, Andy Dalton has more TDs.
https://www.statmuse.com/nfl/ask/mos...-last-15-years
It also shows he's average. Average is better than bad, but it's not top tier which is what you need when the rest of the team isn't as good (As Brees and Brady showcased, Mahomes too now) .

Top tier is extremely rarely available. Average in the NFL means the QB is one of the 16-17 best at what they do in the entire world.

AsylumGuido 08-30-2024 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Sinner (Post 1000129)
Don’t y’all ever get tired of trying to prove that we $uck less than some others?

Don't you ever get tired of trying to prove to everyone how badly you think we suck?

Boston Saint 08-30-2024 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Sinner (Post 1000129)
Don’t y’all ever get tired of trying to prove that we $uck less than some others?

So you are trying to argue that Carr WAS a Turnover Machine last year. Good Luck with that.

AsylumGuido 08-30-2024 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Boston Saint (Post 1000132)
So you are trying to argue that Carr WAS a Turnover Machine last year. Good Luck with that.

Yup. In fact, 24 QB's had as many or more interceptions than Carr's eight. Only Stroud and Pickett had a lower interception rate Than Carr's 1.5%. He was 10th in total passing TD's (25). He was 6th in completion percentage (68.4%). Twenty-two QB's (including Stroud) lost more fumbles than Carr's three.

You're correct, Boston. Nobody in their right mind could think that Carr was anything close to a turnover machine. Quite the opposite. There's only one or two that protected the ball as well as did Carr last year.

Sinner 08-30-2024 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 1000131)
Don't you ever get tired of trying to prove to everyone how badly you think we suck?

No. I get tired of seeing us $uck not badly enough to make the necessary changes, but badly enough to not make the playoffs… AGAIN.

BUT as a fan, I’ll never get tired of demanding that the BLACK AND GOLD strive for excellence, and that they DO WHATEVER IT TAKES to win a championship ASAP. We have simply been irrelevant for way too long.

Sinner 08-30-2024 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Boston Saint (Post 1000132)
So you are trying to argue that Carr WAS a Turnover Machine last year. Good Luck with that.

No. I am not trying to argue about that. Not at all.

Carr is Raider Curbside Trash, and Dennis Allen is a DUD. I don’t need to argue that point, because they prove it themselves.

AsylumGuido 08-30-2024 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Sinner (Post 1000135)
No. I am not trying to argue about that. Not at all.

Carr is Raider Curbside Trash, and Dennis Allen is a DUD. I don’t need to argue that point, because they prove it themselves.

Your opinion. Fine. I simply don't agree. You've been spewing your hatred toward the two of them before Carr ever took a snap and Allen ever coached his first game for the Saints. And it is hatred. That is clear and obvious and you cannot hide it.

Sinner 08-30-2024 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 1000136)
Your opinion. Fine. I simply don't agree. You've been spewing your hatred toward the two of them before Carr ever took a snap and Allen ever coached his first game for the Saints. And it is hatred. That is clear and obvious and you cannot hide it.

It’s not “hatred”. It is analysis of professional performance. You can choose to make this personal and emotional, or you can look objectively at exactly what we got.

mapcow 08-30-2024 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 1000136)
Your opinion. Fine. I simply don't agree. You've been spewing your hatred toward the two of them before Carr ever took a snap and Allen ever coached his first game for the Saints. And it is hatred. That is clear and obvious and you cannot hide it.

Quido is confused, as expected. :beatnik:

mapcow 08-30-2024 02:51 PM

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.500 or worse. Not with this current bunch. Truth hurts. But, hey.... lets be FANatically optimistic. Undefeated regular season... lose the first playoff game. and go at it again next year! :beatnik:

AsylumGuido 08-30-2024 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Sinner (Post 1000137)
It’s not “hatred”. It is analysis of professional performance. You can choose to make this personal and emotional, or you can look objectively at exactly what we got.

But that's the point. You had already made your mind up and was on here bashing them both before a single game was ever played. That is not being rational or objective. It is being emotional and preconceived. On the other hand I see Dennis Allen putting one of the best defenses in the league on the field. I see him dumping the Carmichael led offense this season in favor of one better suited to utilizing all of our weapons. Judgement is out until it truly hits the field. That's how you correctly analyze and and judge objectively.

As for Carr, no he isn't elite, none but a very small handful are across the NFL. But what he is is better than most, average at worst. Replacing him now is just as likely going to be with someone inferior, for the short term and likely the long term.

Don't fool yourself. We can all see it. It is hatred you exhibit toward both Carr and Allen. Constant name calling and belittling is telltale. Nothing objective there, at all. Just calling it like most of us out here see it, Sin.

What I see having dropped you from "ignore" is that you haven't changed your ways at all. You are still hijacking every thread with the same monotonous venom with no possible result other than pissing off and running off other members that come here to honestly talk about their Saints. Most fans across the league begin a new season with excitement and high hopes, not blatant hate mongering.

Sinner 08-30-2024 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 1000143)
But that's the point. You had already made your mind up and was on here bashing them both before a single game was ever played. That is not being rational or objective. It is being emotional and preconceived. On the other hand I see Dennis Allen putting one of the best defenses in the league on the field. I see him dumping the Carmichael led offense this season in favor of one better suited to utilizing all of our weapons. Judgement is out until it truly hits the field. That's how you correctly analyze and and judge objectively.

As for Carr, no he isn't elite, none but a very small handful are across the NFL. But what he is is better than most, average at worst. Replacing him now is just as likely going to be with someone inferior, for the short term and likely the long term.

Don't fool yourself. We can all see it. It is hatred you exhibit toward both Carr and Allen. Constant name calling and belittling is telltale. Nothing objective there, at all. Just calling it like most of us out here see it, Sin.

What I see having dropped you from "ignore" is that you haven't changed your ways at all. You are still hijacking every thread with the same monotonous venom with no possible result other than pissing off and running off other members that come here to honestly talk about their Saints. Most fans across the league begin a new season with excitement and high hopes, not blatant hate mongering.

Carr is Raider Curbside Trash. The Raiders knew it, The Saints knew it, We all knew it… And Dennis Allen is a DUD. There’s no hatred for these men, at least, not from me. We are simply NOT (AINT) going to win a championship as long as they are around. That’s my not so bold prediction.

AsylumGuido 08-30-2024 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Sinner (Post 1000147)
Carr is Raider Curbside Trash. The Raiders knew it, The Saints knew it, We all knew it… And Dennis Allen is a DUD. There’s no hatred for these men, at least, not from me. We are simply NOT (AINT) going to win a championship as long as they are around. That’s my not so bold prediction.

And there he is again. Hate.

Sinner 08-30-2024 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 1000148)
And there he is again. Hate.

Prediction.

Boston Saint 08-30-2024 05:41 PM

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A guy that finishes top ten in the league in TDs thrown, Completion percentage, and fewest INTs is now Curbside Trash and everybody knew it. Sounds logical to me 🙄?

AsylumGuido 08-30-2024 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Sinner (Post 1000149)
Prediction.

Not prediction. Desire. Name calling hate and everyone knows it, Sin. It is what it is. Deny all you want, but it is clear. You want the team to fail. That is clear.

Sinner 08-30-2024 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Boston Saint (Post 1000150)
A guy that finishes top ten in the league in TDs thrown, Completion percentage, and fewest INTs is now Curbside Trash and everybody knew it. Sounds logical to me 🙄?

The Raiders were logical when they sat his a$$ down and then kicked him to the curb. The Saints were highly illogical in paying him big money to underwhelm us.

… and Dennis Allen is a DUD.

AsylumGuido 08-30-2024 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Sinner (Post 1000152)
The Raiders were logical when they sat his a$$ down and then kicked him to the curb. The Saints were highly illogical in paying him big money to underwhelm us.

… and Dennis Allen is a DUD.

You have turned into a total troll, Sin.

Sinner 08-30-2024 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 1000153)
You have turned into a total troll, Sin.

Not troll… truth. My assessment and prediction is based on truth.

And believe me Brother, it hurts me more than it does you, clearly.

AsylumGuido 08-30-2024 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Sinner (Post 1000154)
Not troll… truth. My assessment and prediction is based on truth.

And believe me Brother, it hurts me more than it does you, clearly.

BS. You are a total troll. Coming into every thread sharing your hate. Ruining the forum. You are by definition a troll. Face it, Sin. What you do daily is trolling the forum. :rolleyes:


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