Featured Discussion Saints vs Falcons Game Day Thread

Originally Posted by K Major

The Saints made two mistakes, which cost us.

That's the only reason why the Falcons are leading.

Control the time of possession (avg 5.2 running) in the second half and we win.

This here ^^^

[Halo]

Taysom will be out the rest of the game.

[dizzle88]

Saints imploding man.

False start, hold.

[Sinner]

Oh boy…

[dizzle88]

Pathetic, absolutely pathetic

[Sinner]

the saints are who they THOUGHT we were…

[dizzle88]

I don't understand how we can consistently suck like this after how we looked in the first 2 weeks.

Think Panthers would beat us in this state

[dizzle88]

Jesus...

[BakoSaint]

Originally Posted by dizzle88

Report from Nick Underhill, Taysom has been taken to the locker room.

**** this team in every way

Taysom Hill is 34yo and asked to play Kittle, Jurczyk, Samuel, and McCaffery in our offense because nobody else on the offense is really as physical a mauler as their counterpart in SF. It can be hard to make a drastic change in scheme in one year when you dont have a lot of cap flexibility or draft picks to make personnel changes and you already guaranteed money to a lot of guys who fit a previous scheme. Taysom Hill getting banged up is not bad luck, it is kind of inevitable with what we have to ask of him.

Rasheed Shaheed is kind of like the cheaper plastic version of Tyreek Hill, all the speed and moves but fails the crash test rating, and we try to use him like Deebo Samuel because he doesnt have time to get open on deep plays. With this kind of usage Shaheed will never stay healthy all year, but we dont have depth behind him and Olave. A good way to think of Shaheed right now may be Desean Jackson playing Deebo Samuel.

We gave guaranteed borderline starter money to both Johnson and Moreau at TE before Kubiak arrived, and neither are really maulers, and with the money going to Hill too who is a TE on paper, we could not afford to spend any money or picks on a more physical TE, or even really to give a guy like Holker much playing time without people calling out why we are paying the other guys and not using them.

Kamara is a slick shifty RB but is not a mauler. He has always been used sparingly as a runner and tried to avoid hits. He is also getting older. Using him as a centerpiece to pound the ball is not sustainable so Hill has to share that duty too. We need to spread out the defense for Kamara to be at his best but we cant do that if our deep threats dont have time to get open. We can only give our deep threats time to get open by establishing the run, but that involves pounding the ball with Kamara even though its not his strong suit, since our oline cannot pass protect well.

Olave is a speedy craftsman at receiver. He is not built to be physical. But he is a recent 1st round pick we can't afford to replace.

Jamaal Williams is an older RB who seems to lack both speed and power. He is a player who has experience and can run through wide open holes or pick up blocks. Taysom Hill clearly outperforms him on both speed and power. But the team gave Williams 2 years of guaranteed money.

Ultimately if Taysom Hill has to play the mauler role for the entire offense at age 34 he will never stay healthy.

[dizzle88]

How can we not hit Kirk, he's playing on one leg