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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Kick the tires and hopefully drive up the price for another team. It'd be pushing it to think we can afford him....
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10-03-2024, 10:14 AM | #12 |
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Re: Davante Adams
Originally Posted by Danno
That would be nice but there aren't any out there. I heard once again yesterday on NFL Radio about the record number of offensive line injuries. Almost every team has been affected and is wanting something that simply isn't available ... starter quality linemen.
A byproduct of the situation is the lack of production across the league for tight ends. TE's are being used in the blocking game more now than ever to cover for the lack of quality depth on the line. |
10-03-2024, 10:38 AM | #13 |
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Re: Davante Adams
Originally Posted by SmashMouth
Which team(s) are trading good o line depth a month into the season?
I'd argue Kubiak did a good job to rebound with a full week of practice when game planning for Atl. We averaged over 5 ypc & over 130 yards rushing. |
10-03-2024, 10:56 AM | #14 |
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Re: Davante Adams
Originally Posted by AsylumGuido
^^ This
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10-03-2024, 11:52 AM | #15 |
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Re: Davante Adams
As many have already stated, you can’t trade for a commodity that is unavailable.
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10-03-2024, 01:08 PM | #16 |
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10-03-2024, 02:44 PM | #17 |
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Re: Davante Adams
Originally Posted by AsylumGuido
There is one place that Oline and Dline depth are available. The NFL Draft. We found that out when we selected a tackle in the first round of the 2024 NFL draft who is performing well. NFL draft picks are available in mid-season trades, and we also already have a number of picks in the 2025 NFL Draft, approximately one in each round. I am excited about the draft picks we have, and would be more excited about having more, because I believe those draft picks are much more likely to contribute to bringing our team a championship than a wide receiver who is about to turn 32, and whose contribution will be diminished by the lack of time our QB has to throw, just like our existing receivers, who are all better edge/deep than over the middle taking hits just like Adams. I would not be excited if we traded draft picks, that could address our oline and dline issues, for a redundant aging deep/edge receiver who cannot address those issues.
To some extend Adams could be more effective catching passes over the middle than Olave and Shaheed perhaps, and taking hits that come with them, forcing teams to protect the whole field more. But to the extent he can do that, he would also be a 32 years old taking all those hits, the same problem we see with Taysom Hill, and saw last year with Michael Thomas. Bringing in a very expensive 32yo receiver to catch the 'murder balls' seems risky. We lack nothing for deep threats. We lack nothing for edge receivers. We miss Michael Thomas from a skill standpoint. We lack a TE like Kittle. Bring in Adams to do that, and fair chance he gets injured. I don't totally understand how injury settlements work but its worth considering what would happen if we brought in Adams and he had a significant injury. Adams is due $36 million in 2025. Everyone says nobody will pay that. But a player can't be cut without an injury settlement if they can't pass a physical. Dez Bryant was in this 30yo season when he signed the Saints and tore his ACL. Adams is in his age 32 season. Why would he agree to an injury settlement of less than $30 million if he is injured in 2024 and can't pass a physical before week 1 of 2025? And then if we are stuck with him in 2025 do we play him? If its reinjured we are in the same boat for 2026. That big salary is not just a fake number, it may present a danger on the books. |
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10-03-2024, 05:00 PM | #18 |
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Re: Davante Adams
I'd like to keep our draft picks, but one of our needs along with DL and OL is another WR.
Trading for Adams takes that need off the table. Whats more logical, a 2nd or 3rd round pick on a WR who may or may not stud out or acquiring Adams for that same 2nd or 3rd round pick? I just might prefer Adams to a WR draft pick. Assuming everyone agrees we need another WR alongside Olave and Shaspeed. |
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10-04-2024, 12:27 AM | #20 |
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Re: Davante Adams
Originally Posted by Danno
The standard salary for a 2nd to 3rd round pick WR is significantly less than $36 million a year. So its not a 1:1 thing. We can have the draft pick and $34 million to spend on other players.
Looking at options from 2024 draft and free agency as examples vs Adams, would you rather have 32yo Adams or Adonai Mitchell, Darnell Mooney, Mile Williams, Derrick Henry, and $2 million to spare? I would take the 3 young players and the old RB over the old WR. |