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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by AsylumGuido I'm hearing that "hamstring injury" would mysteriously disappear on a different roster. It won't be the first time, nor the last, that a player's agent has used that tactic to garner a trade. Maybe Evan Engram's ...

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Old 10-05-2024, 12:46 PM   #31
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Re: Davante Adams

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido View Post
I'm hearing that "hamstring injury" would mysteriously disappear on a different roster. It won't be the first time, nor the last, that a player's agent has used that tactic to garner a trade.
Maybe Evan Engram's hamstring injury would disappear too, the Jaguars are 0-4 compared to the Raiders at 2-2.

The Titans thought Julio Jones nagging injuries would disappear with a trade.

The Giant thought Darren Waller's nagging injuries would disappear with a trade.

Brandin Cooks, 9 months younger than Davante Adams, went on IR today.

Father time is undefeated, and if there were two groups who had the best idea if Adams was already starting to succumb to it, they would be the team / front office who are offering him up for trade, and PFF who graded every snap he played and show a steady decline with just enough skill left to fool the eyes on a few big plays but nowhere near the consistency.

If we were dominating the whole league already on course to win a ring, I could see trading for Adams as a 1 year rental, knowing that we lack depth at WR, and he could step in if Olave or Shaheed goes down and keep us on trade. But I dont think he is better than Olave or Shaheed anymore. PFF scores dont indicate he has really been better since 2022. And he does not offer something way different, he is another deep threat edge guy who doesn't need to be taking hits over the middle. So he would be used for depth and rotation. That does not make us way better, but keeps us more steady on course for where we are already heading in one rare scenario that the main future injury challenge we face happens to be at WR not QB, more oline, defense, Kamara, etc, at a big cost to future years cap (even if we cut him, we owe money on the restructures used to make room to sign him), some draft picks we desperately need, and a big risk if he were injured and could not be cut and we had to pay him $36 million next year to be Bucs Julio Jones. The thing is, we are looking like an 8-10 win team right now, a team that could sneak into the wild card, maybe have a 1-in-3 chance to upset a team like the Bucs or Seahawks on the road, and then get knocked out by a stronger team. Its not worth mortgaging the future to take a flier on protecting that result from WR injury. We aren't on track for a ring, and he is not the player who puts us on track for one, because he addresses none of our biggest weaknesses: oline, dline, possession WR / TE who can attack the middle of the field. The best place to address those is the draft. The cheapest and most practical way to address them in season is TE.
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Old 10-05-2024, 12:57 PM   #32
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Re: Davante Adams

Originally Posted by BakoSaint View Post
Maybe Evan Engram's hamstring injury would disappear too, the Jaguars are 0-4 compared to the Raiders at 2-2.

The Titans thought Julio Jones nagging injuries would disappear with a trade.

The Giant thought Darren Waller's nagging injuries would disappear with a trade.

Brandin Cooks, 9 months younger than Davante Adams, went on IR today.

Father time is undefeated, and if there were two groups who had the best idea if Adams was already starting to succumb to it, they would be the team / front office who are offering him up for trade, and PFF who graded every snap he played and show a steady decline with just enough skill left to fool the eyes on a few big plays but nowhere near the consistency.

If we were dominating the whole league already on course to win a ring, I could see trading for Adams as a 1 year rental, knowing that we lack depth at WR, and he could step in if Olave or Shaheed goes down and keep us on trade. But I dont think he is better than Olave or Shaheed anymore. PFF scores dont indicate he has really been better since 2022. And he does not offer something way different, he is another deep threat edge guy who doesn't need to be taking hits over the middle. So he would be used for depth and rotation. That does not make us way better, but keeps us more steady on course for where we are already heading in one rare scenario that the main future injury challenge we face happens to be at WR not QB, more oline, defense, Kamara, etc, at a big cost to future years cap (even if we cut him, we owe money on the restructures used to make room to sign him), some draft picks we desperately need, and a big risk if he were injured and could not be cut and we had to pay him $36 million next year to be Bucs Julio Jones. The thing is, we are looking like an 8-10 win team right now, a team that could sneak into the wild card, maybe have a 1-in-3 chance to upset a team like the Bucs or Seahawks on the road, and then get knocked out by a stronger team. Its not worth mortgaging the future to take a flier on protecting that result from WR injury. We aren't on track for a ring, and he is not the player who puts us on track for one, because he addresses none of our biggest weaknesses: oline, dline, possession WR / TE who can attack the middle of the field. The best place to address those is the draft. The cheapest and most practical way to address them in season is TE.
I wouldn’t be mad at Engram. Definitely improves the roster.
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Old 10-05-2024, 01:42 PM   #33
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Re: Davante Adams

Originally Posted by BakoSaint View Post
Maybe Evan Engram's hamstring injury would disappear too, the Jaguars are 0-4 compared to the Raiders at 2-2.

The Titans thought Julio Jones nagging injuries would disappear with a trade.

The Giant thought Darren Waller's nagging injuries would disappear with a trade.

Brandin Cooks, 9 months younger than Davante Adams, went on IR today.

Father time is undefeated, and if there were two groups who had the best idea if Adams was already starting to succumb to it, they would be the team / front office who are offering him up for trade, and PFF who graded every snap he played and show a steady decline with just enough skill left to fool the eyes on a few big plays but nowhere near the consistency.

If we were dominating the whole league already on course to win a ring, I could see trading for Adams as a 1 year rental, knowing that we lack depth at WR, and he could step in if Olave or Shaheed goes down and keep us on trade. But I dont think he is better than Olave or Shaheed anymore. PFF scores dont indicate he has really been better since 2022. And he does not offer something way different, he is another deep threat edge guy who doesn't need to be taking hits over the middle. So he would be used for depth and rotation. That does not make us way better, but keeps us more steady on course for where we are already heading in one rare scenario that the main future injury challenge we face happens to be at WR not QB, more oline, defense, Kamara, etc, at a big cost to future years cap (even if we cut him, we owe money on the restructures used to make room to sign him), some draft picks we desperately need, and a big risk if he were injured and could not be cut and we had to pay him $36 million next year to be Bucs Julio Jones. The thing is, we are looking like an 8-10 win team right now, a team that could sneak into the wild card, maybe have a 1-in-3 chance to upset a team like the Bucs or Seahawks on the road, and then get knocked out by a stronger team. Its not worth mortgaging the future to take a flier on protecting that result from WR injury. We aren't on track for a ring, and he is not the player who puts us on track for one, because he addresses none of our biggest weaknesses: oline, dline, possession WR / TE who can attack the middle of the field. The best place to address those is the draft. The cheapest and most practical way to address them in season is TE.
I guess you totally misunderstood the "disappearing hamstring". There are serious doubts that Adams truly has any hamstring injury. They addressed this yesterday afternoon on NFL Radio in a segment with Dr. David Chou, @profootballdoc. He said there's no way to know for sure if a player that wants (or is instructed) to hold out truly has a given injury in many cases. A hamstring is one of those. He said he had encountered that himself over the years saying the player would be dealt and "miraculously" is able to play right away with his new team.
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