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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; As others have already stated .. it starts with the O line . It's why the Saints have lost 3 straight. Outside of McCoy, not a lot of talent (Fuaga is promising) or players I trust. But mainly injuries and ...

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Old 10-08-2024, 10:38 AM   #21
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As others have already stated .. it starts with the O line.

It's why the Saints have lost 3 straight. Outside of McCoy, not a lot of talent (Fuaga is promising) or players I trust. But mainly injuries and the lack of quality depth have removed all continuity and rhythm we had.

Carr isn't mobile enough & gets happy feet when pressured.

4 centers in 5 weeks ?! You have almost no shot at this level.
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As others have already stated .. it starts with the O line.

It's why the Saints have lost 3 straight. Outside of McCoy, not a lot of talent (Fuaga is promising) or players I trust. But mainly injuries and the lack of quality depth have removed all continuity and rhythm we had.

Carr isn't mobile enough & gets happy feet when pressured.

4 centers in 5 weeks ?! You have almost no shot at this level.
Was the OL at fault here?

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Old 10-08-2024, 11:33 AM   #23
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My guess is it was a major factor. Carr had zero time to throw. His mistake was throwing it up for grabs.
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My guess is it was a major factor. Carr had zero time to throw. His mistake was throwing it up for grabs.
A competent QB who has zero time, DOES NOT make that mistake.
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Old 10-08-2024, 12:03 PM   #26
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This is our QB and coach for rest of year. No chance Allen moves on from Carr with his job on the line. Only way we see Rattler is if mid season coaching change made or Carr and Haener both are injured.
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Old 10-08-2024, 12:54 PM   #27
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Another thing to consider is that the injuries at center have been so devistating and Carr’s performance before them was so excellent because we took the job of calling protections off of Carr and put them on the center, so he could just focus on playing QB. Oline are more frequently injured or cast away and have shorter careers than QBs and QBs get paid more, so all things being equal having the QB call protections would give more stability and experience, especially a highly paid veteran QB like Carr. But despire a salary that will balloon from $30m this year to $40m next year and $50m in 2026, Carr could not handle it. And thus with any injury to McCoy our offense was vulnerable. But Carr did perform better with McCoy doing his homework for him. But then again, its also possible that having all those coverages on his mind distracted McCoy just enough or took just enough preparation time away from hiw conditioning to instead study film to get him smashed up by Jalen Carter. In the end, if our scheme is designed to require less capability from the QB, why are we paying so much for a QB, and why arent we spending more on a deeper more capable oline?
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Old 10-08-2024, 01:14 PM   #28
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Another thing to consider is that the injuries at center have been so devistating and Carr’s performance before them was so excellent because we took the job of calling protections off of Carr and put them on the center, so he could just focus on playing QB. Oline are more frequently injured or cast away and have shorter careers than QBs and QBs get paid more, so all things being equal having the QB call protections would give more stability and experience, especially a highly paid veteran QB like Carr. But despire a salary that will balloon from $30m this year to $40m next year and $50m in 2026, Carr could not handle it. And thus with any injury to McCoy our offense was vulnerable. But Carr did perform better with McCoy doing his homework for him. But then again, its also possible that having all those coverages on his mind distracted McCoy just enough or took just enough preparation time away from hiw conditioning to instead study film to get him smashed up by Jalen Carter. In the end, if our scheme is designed to require less capability from the QB, why are we paying so much for a QB, and why arent we spending more on a deeper more capable oline?
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Old 10-08-2024, 01:44 PM   #29
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Carr is a thoroughbred QB, a nice clean pocket, nice lanes, nice routes he does as well as anyone if not most. Punch him in the nose, pressure up front, uncomfortable, he is way below average. Many other (top tier) QB's can move around, take a punch in the nose, overcome and adapt to the situation are the successful QB's. Unfortunately, he is only a thoroughbred.
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I’ve purposely stayed off for the first 5 weeks because I wanted to give the optimist a chance! Derek Carr and Dennis Allen need to go! They’ve never won together! They’re comfortable with each other, but that doesn’t win games! I really think we’re in for a long season if changes are not made! Leave Kubiak at OC and hire a new HC and DC! We need a field stretching TE and upgrade the offensive line! We could use a couple of above average WR’s and a good RB! We don’t need Adams! He’ll just be comfortable with the coaching staff like Carr and won’t produce! We need a good kicker too! Start Rattler now so we can analyze his production the rest of the year! If he does great then we’re ahead of the game for next season, if not we draft our future QB! We need draft picks! I see us at 7-10 and no playoffs again! I hope I’m wrong, but I’m being realistic here!
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