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I think Flores ran himself off in Miami.

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If we go all in on the rebuild its not as bad as it looks. We get two post-june-1 cuts which we can use on Carr and Ram. Those save $48 million. Then we cut Kamara and Lattimore as a regular cuts for another $30 million. That basically gets us under the cap. We will need to restructure some players like McCoy, Granderson, Ruiz, etc to get under the cap temporarily while the post-June-1 moves wait to take effect on the cap. Then after those post June 1 moves take effect, we can free up space to sign draft picks. We can rebuild this offseason if we go all in on rebuilding.

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I never bought in to that "we're gonna need 3 or 4 years to rebuild"

With free-agency, the draft and undrafted free-agents, a team can be rebuilt in one season.

From my view shoring up the trenches solves 80% of our problems roster wise. Thats the roux we need for that excellent pot of gumbo. Throw in some spicy free-agents and a skill stud or two and we're back on top, roster wise.

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While that makes sense for a front office, how many coaches are going to survive 2 or 3 bad years before they start to see the hopefully improved years. You are likely on the hot seat before the light is visable at the end of the tunnel

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We can get back to competing quickly. But, it will take until 2026-2027 to full heal our salary cap if we go all in to rebuild, longer if we go slower. 2025 we will have to do restructures to afford the cap hits the to get rid of the dead weight. Much of that will hit as dead cap in 2025 but big hits from the two designated post-june-1 cuts, i would propose Carr and Ram, will hit in 2026. But then again our 2026 cap situation will look no worse, it will just be dead cap hits for Carr and Ram instead of their massive salaries, so it will be a minor issue. Then in 2027 we could have a fairly clean cap.

We could contend in 2025 and 2026 with the right draft picks and maybe a few value free agents. But sometimes a team that is almost all the way there needs big cap money to bring in the next Tom Brady, Jalen Ramsey, or Trent Williams to become the top dog. We certainly wont have the money to do that until 2026 or later, ideally 2027 or later.

I think the smart more is to cut the dead weight and aging injured players, try to build a young core, cleanup our cap, and try to find a young QB who clearly has what it takes. Then when that QB is in his window to win and we clearly need a little more boost, then spend the money to get a big free agent and take a shot. Don't spend the big money just to try to get the wildcard, get the wildcard through the draft, hopefully the division through the draft, and then spend for the ring.

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You need to be really strict and accept it will be a up and down ride for a couple of years. But if fans see the bright side they will stick with younger players more than highly paid vets. No signing players with injury flags, no signing vets on long/high paid contracts. You want players under 28 who have 3-5 years left minimum at a high level so they can lead and grown with young players.

Sell that to the best UDFA and players needing to make the step up from back ups to starters in free agency.


But most of all you need a front office that is scouting better and using a data department to find players that are underused,that will play beyond their pay. Data is being used in soccer now at quite a few clubs(Red Bull group,Liverpool,Brighton,probably doesn't interest many on here) once football started taking notes from Billy Beane and money ball ideas in baseball and its been a massive success at all them clubs. When you get a coach,data team and good scouting it leads to big improvements.

The Scouting department needs ripped up, who knows if its scouts not having a eye for talent or Ireland/Loomis,Allen ignoring them. But since that 2017 draft that should have set this team up for a decade this is the drafts

Marcus Davenport
Tre'quan Smith
Rick Leonard
Natrell Jamerson
Kamrin Moore
Boston Scott
Will Clapp


Eric McCoy
C.J Gardner Johnson
Saquan Hampton
Alize Mack
Kaden Ellis


Cesar Ruiz
Zack Baun
Adam Trautman
Tommy Stevens


Payton Turner
Pete Werner
Paulson Adebo
Ian Book
Landon Young
Kawaan Baker


Chris Olave
Trevor Penning
Alonte Taylor
D'Marco Jackson
Jordan Jackson


bryan Bresee
Isaiah Foskey
Kendre Miller
Nick Saldiveri
Jake Haener
Jordan Howden
A.T Perry

That is very likely in the 5 worst drafting teams since

You can't be at the cap limit and not having the cap space to be very aggressive and drafting this badly

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Trading some of these guys right now might be beneficial.

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What happens if we bottom out this season? Do you think DA gets a Mulligan?

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Excellent choice!

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I'm not saying we'd go to 1-16, although that's basically what Houston did. Even with bad talent, a proper coach can keep a team from being with the bottom dwellers. And as posted earlier, better drafting and keep UDFA gets us in better shape more quickly than most realize.