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Dennis Allen still around? We loyal fans deserve better. ANYTHING but this…

The whole thing is broken. Tear it down now. Mickey likes Dennis? Get rid of Mickey. Gayle likes Mickey? Fans need to boycott the Dome.


“Look beyond results”? Go get fcked man.

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Unfortunately I think it will be have to be the fans to put pressure on the organization to make change. Otherwise they same people will be in position of power and no progress will be made.

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Embarassing.

Mickey Loomis needs to lose that EGO & start making changes, then he needs to step aside. He's been bad at GM anyway.

You can't even fully evaluate the QB position because of so much trash around him.

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Like I said in another post, staying away from dome is how we vote. And we vote No to DA

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Doesn't seem like any moves were made today. We can't just advise Loomis to fire Dennis Allen. We also need to somehow convince him it was his idea.

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Inception style lol

But we'd just let Loomis and DA fall into the very bottom void instead.

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I’m good. Keep losing. I want Cam Ward.

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40% of the team is injured. 7 starters on offense. 2 undrafted rookies starting on offense. I’m ok with where we are with all the injuries

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Here's one thing we need to consider - we are LONG overdue for a bad season.

Since the year 2000, we've only had 1 season where we finished in the 0-6 win range. That was of course the 2005 Katrina season. The only other team in the NFL to have just 1 season in the 0-6 win range since 2000 is the Steelers (2003). And as we know, the Steelers are a model franchise that everyone in the NFL uses as a measuring stick.

One of the false narratives that has transpired over time is that the Saints were pathetic until Sean and Drew came in 2006. This isn't true, as the Haslett era was the one that got the franchise on track (with our first ever playoff win). While Haslett had his issues, he was a superior head coach to Dennis Allen by way of optics, statistics and every other conceivable way. If DA was our 2005 coach, we almost certainly finish that season 0-16 instead of 3-13.

I say all this to say that if we finish the season with 2-5 wins, maybe even in last place below the Panthers, it's not a death sentence. It's very normal in the NFL. Look at the Rams, who went from 12-5 and a Super Bowl win to 5-12 the next year. The Chiefs are currently the top dog, but they had a horrific 2-14 season before Reid was hired. They also had a nasty stretch in 2007-2009 where they had a combined 8 wins in 3 seasons.

It could be time for the Saints to get bent over and wrecked for a season or two. It's sucks but there's no shame in it. It's normal for the NFL.

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Oh, I’ve been considering that this long overdue bad season would come. And here it is.

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At the rate we are going lets say we finish 5-12 or possibly 4-13 or worse. The Saints finished 7-9 five times during Drew Brees prime years. Drew Brees is the reason they didn't have a down year, take him out one of those seasons and 4-5 wins or less is what you get. Derek Carr ain't Drew Brees, and under pressure he ain't close.

I hated Haslett. He was a worse excuse factory than DA. DA would say we need to keep chopping wood but Haslett would talk about how if the ball bounced differently. Its very possible DA could have won more than 3 games with the 2005 roster. The receiving core of Horn, Stallworth, Henderson, and Hakim is much better than the injury mess we have now. Brooks is comparable to Carr and Rattler. The defense featured Smith, Grant, Whitehead, Howard, and McKenzie, although perhaps my remembering none of the linebackers is a bad sign. Overall, the Saints 2005 roster is one that was able to go to the NFC championship game a year later, a lot of pieces were there. And more importantly there was the cap space and draft picks for a new coach to remake it, something we need to free up to attract the best new coach.

A big problem with the Saints of this era is that the whole 'lol the salary cap doesn't exist' act has left us incapable of smoothly changing coaches. When Sean Payton came in, he could remake the roster in his image. When Klint Kubiak came in, we told him sorry we are broke, run your smash mouth offense with the ultimate finesse personnel. Use this 34 year old as a battering ram until his ribs go out. We have this tiny juco speedster WR, have him run screens and block down field and make contested catches. We have the best 3rd down back in the league, who we have always limited on snaps because his isnt a smasher, run him every 1st and 2nd down to keep the defense honest, so he leads the league in carries. Good luck buddy.

The problem with both DA and Haslett is that they are mediocre. Haslett had one playoff season because the roster was tired of Mike Ditka, and excited that he wasn't Mike Ditka. DA could have been not Mike Ditka too. Other than that they are .500 guys if you give them a decent roster and lose a lot with a weaker roster. We broke the bank to give a mediocre coach a decent roster to go .500, and now we will struggle to give our next coach the same chance Sean Payton did to have money to bring in his own players.

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Nope! Not good in the least. Dang!

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Can we get this QB in FA?

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Am I the only person that has not hated what he has seen from Rattler?

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Absolutely not bro. I’d prefer to see him play the rest of the season.

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Unfortunately, we have a system that will get him crushed before he is even able to develop any serious confidence, which will make it impossible for him to shine as he would elsewhere.

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Wouldn't mind seeing what we haven't seen from "Pretty Boy" Haener.

Both need to see what we haven't seen.

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Of course, that's what i thought when Aikman came into the league, but I digress. Different management, different coaching and more importantly an extreme higher expectation level (Including the fanbase). Failure was not an option. We have people in management that seem to look beyond the record.....Could you imagine that response in a place like Dallas? Of course now Skeletor Jones has taken the Messiah complex to a new level, but still. We just keep showing up, singing Coom bi ah. Hopefully something changes, from top down

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.250 … we cool?