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Papa Voodoo 10-24-2024 12:36 PM

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I sincerely hope you all were saying this exact same thing in weeks 1 and 2. Everyone criticized DA for not being animated. He finally does it after Dallas and now he should be fired. Sean had several bad seasons in a row with Drew Brees.

Sinner 10-24-2024 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Papa Voodoo (Post 1003903)
I sincerely hope you all were saying this exact same thing in weeks 1 and 2. Everyone criticized DA for not being animated. He finally does it after Dallas and now he should be fired. Sean had several bad seasons in a row with Drew Brees.

Yeah, Dennis Allen needs at least two or three more years to develop Derek Carr, and allow the Defense to continue to quit on him, before we possibly win our pathetic division. We need to be patient.

K Major 10-24-2024 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Sinner (Post 1003905)
Yeah, Dennis Allen needs at least two or three more years to develop Derek Carr, and allow the Defense to continue to quit on him, before we possibly win our pathetic division. We need to be patient.

Everyday that Loomis allows Dennis Allen to "lead" this team, further erodes the culture inside the Saints facility & perception of the team outside.

If this was a company, does anyone believe the board would allow a crappy CEO just remain because there are debts to pay?

The man should have been relieved of his dutes at the end of 2023 season.

LAZY hire.

iceshack149 10-24-2024 01:40 PM

Re: Kamara to Payton - "Save me from this sinking ship"
 
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Originally Posted by Papa Voodoo (Post 1003903)
I sincerely hope you all were saying this exact same thing in weeks 1 and 2. Everyone criticized DA for not being animated. He finally does it after Dallas and now he should be fired. Sean had several bad seasons in a row with Drew Brees.

Those seasons came after the league suspended Payton and multiple starters in 2012 and took away draft picks from the team. Despite this, Payton was given some grace having won the Superbowl three years prior to the Bountygate hoax.

Rugby Saint II 10-24-2024 01:49 PM

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It is tough to build depth on a roster when you continually trade up for players that don't work out.

Papa Voodoo 10-24-2024 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II (Post 1003911)
It is tough to build depth on a roster when you continually trade up for players that don't work out.

This was a big criticism of Sean. Olave was a great pick under DA. Penning not so much. Bresee isn’t a bust but needs to improve. Fuaga is doing well.

Sinner 10-24-2024 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Papa Voodoo (Post 1003914)
This was a big criticism of Sean. Olave was a great pick under DA. Penning not so much. Bresee isn’t a bust but needs to improve. Fuaga is doing well.

And we need a new Head Coach.

Papa Voodoo 10-25-2024 03:15 PM

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And we need a new Head Coach.

We need a better head coach. We’ve done the new coach thing plenty with terrible results. At the end of Sean’s tenure the defense led the team. We let too many of those players go and the older ones are getting too old for a redo. A rebuild can be highly effective if smart choices are made. Otherwise it will be Groundhog Day. Is the consensus that DA should go all together or rather move back to D coordinator like Spagnuolo?

jnormand 10-25-2024 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Papa Voodoo (Post 1003929)
We need a better head coach. We’ve done the new coach thing plenty with terrible results. At the end of Sean’s tenure the defense led the team. We let too many of those players go and the older ones are getting too old for a redo. A rebuild can be highly effective if smart choices are made. Otherwise it will be Groundhog Day. Is the consensus that DA should go all together or rather move back to D coordinator like Spagnuolo?

DA isn’t going to take a demotion to DC on this team while someone else takes over as HC.

So it doesn’t really matter. If DA goes, he’ll be a DC somewhere else I’m sure. But he’s obviously not cut out for the HC duties.

K Major 10-25-2024 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Papa Voodoo (Post 1003929)
Is the consensus that DA should go all together or rather move back to D coordinator like Spagnuolo?

His current dead last NFL defense ?

Allen needs to be gone completely from New Orleans.


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