Saints Season

bobdog86 · 10-23-2024, 10:53 AM

Originally Posted by iceshack149

Okay. A non-response response.

Point being, unfortunately we keep the same cast of characters either way. Win or Lose. I personally wish we win out.

mapcow · 10-24-2024, 11:28 AM

a quick death is preferable to a slow agonizing fade. Oh well.... maybe next year... LMFAO

Sinner · 10-24-2024, 02:00 PM

Originally Posted by mapcow

a quick death is preferable to a slow agonizing fade. Oh well.... maybe next year... LMFAO

The painfully sad part, is it WILL NOT be next year. We are basically looking at exactly what we should have addressed three years ago, and we AINT addressing it this year. So…

Rugby Saint II · 10-25-2024, 03:33 PM

I don't ever want to lose a game. Ever! However, I am willing to lose games if it means cleaning house and bringing in head coach who actually understands how to win.

arsaint · 10-25-2024, 03:51 PM

I WANT us to win out because that means another Superbowl title.

Reality though??? Roger Goodell will make sure we finish between 6-9 wins with a little surge near the end of the season to keep the fans engaged. SCREW HIM. I'm not buying his screwjob or his merch.

It'll also means another mid 1st draft pick that won't make a big difference on the team and another year plus of past-their-prime players at a premium and the Dennis Allen Ah Shucks We Sucks show...

UK_WhoDat · 10-26-2024, 12:42 PM

I want us to TRY to win out. That way we learn POSSIBLY more about individual players, their capacity to play, their mentality for the game.

It is impossible to WANT a defeat, at any time.

I know /assume there could be consequences if we lose out, but it AINT gonna be what I think many are hoping. The only benefit is to get decent draft picks.

iceshack149 · 10-26-2024, 05:25 PM

Originally Posted by arsaint

I WANT us to win out because that means another Superbowl title.

Reality though??? Roger Goodell will make sure we finish between 6-9 wins with a little surge near the end of the season to keep the fans engaged. SCREW HIM. I'm not buying his screwjob or his merch.

It'll also means another mid 1st draft pick that won't make a big difference on the team and another year plus of past-their-prime players at a premium and the Dennis Allen Ah Shucks We Sucks show...

It does appear that the NFL has their thumb on the scales in determining the outcomes of games and ultimately the season. Before the Rams went back to L.A. a few years ago Goodell made it clear that he wanted that team to succeed (there's a lot of money in L.A. of course) and it's apparent that the NFL is making sure that the Rams win games.
And now that the NFL is constantly peddling gambling sites you know that the league is shadier than ever and it will only get worse.

AsylumGuido · 10-26-2024, 05:27 PM

Originally Posted by stickman

When given the choice, I always want my team to win.

I get the consequences of the team having a bad season, (new coach, better draft pick, etc.) but I can't root for them to fail. It's not in me.

Spoken like a real fan.

AsylumGuido · 10-26-2024, 06:10 PM

The minute you start wanting your (supposed) team to lose you have ceased being a fan. You may still think you are a fan, but you are lying to yourself. Actively hoping your (supposed) team loses any individual game is contrary to fandom. It even gets worse if you want your (supposed) team to lose to somehow "prove you are right." To actively celebrate the team's loss is the lowest attitude and proves beyond a shadow of a doubt you truly do not care about your (supposed) team.

My opinion on the subject.

Sinner · 10-26-2024, 08:09 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

The minute you start wanting your (supposed) team to lose you have ceased being a fan. You may still think you are a fan, but you are lying to yourself. Actively hoping your (supposed) team loses any individual game is contrary to fandom. It even gets worse if you want your (supposed) team to lose to somehow "prove you are right." To actively celebrate the team's loss is the lowest attitude and proves beyond a shadow of a doubt you truly do not care about your (supposed) team.

My opinion on the subject.

At least you are admitting that it is your OPINION. We’re making progress.
The Saints… not so much. 😜

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10-23-2024, 10:53 AM	#11
bobdog86 Site Donor Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Washington State Posts: 1,406	Re: Saints Season Originally Posted by iceshack149 Okay. A non-response response. Point being, unfortunately we keep the same cast of characters either way. Win or Lose. I personally wish we win out. iceshack149 and Sinner like this.

10-24-2024, 11:28 AM	#12
mapcow Just a Fan Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 1,753	Re: Saints Season a quick death is preferable to a slow agonizing fade. Oh well.... maybe next year... LMFAO
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10-24-2024, 02:00 PM	#13
Sinner 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 3,873	Re: Saints Season Originally Posted by mapcow a quick death is preferable to a slow agonizing fade. Oh well.... maybe next year... LMFAO The painfully sad part, is it WILL NOT be next year. We are basically looking at exactly what we should have addressed three years ago, and we AINT addressing it this year. So… mapcow and K Major like this.
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10-25-2024, 03:33 PM	#14
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10-25-2024, 03:51 PM	#15
arsaint Saint Historian Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: deep in the bowels of a hidden bunker, somewhere under the brick & steel of a nondescript building.. Posts: 2,705	Re: Saints Season I WANT us to win out because that means another Superbowl title. Reality though??? Roger Goodell will make sure we finish between 6-9 wins with a little surge near the end of the season to keep the fans engaged. SCREW HIM. I'm not buying his screwjob or his merch. It'll also means another mid 1st draft pick that won't make a big difference on the team and another year plus of past-their-prime players at a premium and the Dennis Allen Ah Shucks We Sucks show...

10-26-2024, 12:42 PM	#16
UK_WhoDat 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Wherever I lay my hat Posts: 3,947	Re: Saints Season I want us to TRY to win out. That way we learn POSSIBLY more about individual players, their capacity to play, their mentality for the game. It is impossible to WANT a defeat, at any time. I know /assume there could be consequences if we lose out, but it AINT gonna be what I think many are hoping. The only benefit is to get decent draft picks. leilung likes this.

10-26-2024, 05:25 PM	#17
iceshack149 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Fairbanks, AK Posts: 4,257 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Saints Season Originally Posted by arsaint I WANT us to win out because that means another Superbowl title. Reality though??? Roger Goodell will make sure we finish between 6-9 wins with a little surge near the end of the season to keep the fans engaged. SCREW HIM. I'm not buying his screwjob or his merch. It'll also means another mid 1st draft pick that won't make a big difference on the team and another year plus of past-their-prime players at a premium and the Dennis Allen Ah Shucks We Sucks show... It does appear that the NFL has their thumb on the scales in determining the outcomes of games and ultimately the season. Before the Rams went back to L.A. a few years ago Goodell made it clear that he wanted that team to succeed (there's a lot of money in L.A. of course) and it's apparent that the NFL is making sure that the Rams win games. And now that the NFL is constantly peddling gambling sites you know that the league is shadier than ever and it will only get worse.

10-26-2024, 05:27 PM	#18
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,200	Re: Saints Season Originally Posted by stickman When given the choice, I always want my team to win. I get the consequences of the team having a bad season, (new coach, better draft pick, etc.) but I can't root for them to fail. It's not in me. Spoken like a real fan. stickman likes this.

10-26-2024, 06:10 PM	#19
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,200	Re: Saints Season The minute you start wanting your (supposed) team to lose you have ceased being a fan. You may still think you are a fan, but you are lying to yourself. Actively hoping your (supposed) team loses any individual game is contrary to fandom. It even gets worse if you want your (supposed) team to lose to somehow "prove you are right." To actively celebrate the team's loss is the lowest attitude and proves beyond a shadow of a doubt you truly do not care about your (supposed) team. My opinion on the subject.

10-26-2024, 08:09 PM	#20
Sinner 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 3,873	Re: Saints Season Originally Posted by AsylumGuido The minute you start wanting your (supposed) team to lose you have ceased being a fan. You may still think you are a fan, but you are lying to yourself. Actively hoping your (supposed) team loses any individual game is contrary to fandom. It even gets worse if you want your (supposed) team to lose to somehow "prove you are right." To actively celebrate the team's loss is the lowest attitude and proves beyond a shadow of a doubt you truly do not care about your (supposed) team. My opinion on the subject. At least you are admitting that it is your OPINION. We’re making progress. The Saints… not so much. 😜
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