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IS DENNIS ALLEN STILL HERE?

this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by AsylumGuido That's correct, ice. The sinner guy doesn't appear to understand the dynamics of the NFL ownership structure. The NFL knows that every franchise has the potential to go through individual hardships of one kind or another. ...

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Old 11-01-2024, 11:08 AM   #41
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That's correct, ice. The sinner guy doesn't appear to understand the dynamics of the NFL ownership structure. The NFL knows that every franchise has the potential to go through individual hardships of one kind or another. The stability of EVERY franchise was crucial to the long term success of the league. It was decided in the very early 1960's to share virtually all revenues so every franchise would be guaranteed to be successful regardless how well any individual team was performing on the field. The advent of third party ticket vendors has also almost guaranteed that every ticket will be sold to cover that small percentage that isn't shared in totality. Even if a team's own fans don't show up there are still opposing fans and virtual paid butts in the seats.

It is totally different than any "normal" business operation and to attempt to compare the two is meaningless.

Oh I understand it son. The old lady dances on your money, you wet your pants, and the SAINTS KEEP LOSING.
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Old 11-01-2024, 02:41 PM   #42
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Reason, not excuse. The drop-off in performance is most likely due to the lack of preparation coupled with the inferior talent of 2nd, 3rd, and 4th string replacements. Every single game in this streak we've had no fewer than a half dozen players that haven't had more than two or three (limited) days of snaps with the 1st string. All continuity has been thrown out the window. There is ultimately a point of greatly diminished returns. Replacing two or three players can be accomplished with limited negative affects. The same cannot be said for replacing 40% of the starters. We've been seeing pretty much what I was expecting regardless of my "rosy" rhetoric.

There are currently ten teams in the league with the same or fewer wins as the Saints. That's a 3rd of the league and all have been affected more or less by the same issues we have faced as a team.

I do understand, however, that this doesn't make it any easier to stomach for many fans. I'll assure you that it doesn't make it any easier to stomach for the players, coaches, and front offices either. Unfortunately they all know that there's no easy immediate solution.
Rationalize it all you want, or however you want. Let's pinpoint one thing. Our tackling plain sucks. Has nothing to do with lack of personnel. starters are missing tackles. Makes it harder to watch.
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Rationalize it all you want, or however you want. Let's pinpoint one thing. Our tackling plain sucks. Has nothing to do with lack of personnel. starters are missing tackles. Makes it harder to watch.
Pretty much.

It's belief, culture, attention to detail and accountability.

Running this back again in 2025 is re arranging chairs on the deck of the titanic.
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Old 11-02-2024, 05:54 AM   #44
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Dennis Allen has the worst winning percentage for a head coach in the last 30 years, when given a minimum of 75 games.

Loomis and Gayle must be senile to be keeping this moron in his job.
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Old 11-02-2024, 10:03 AM   #45
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Dennis Allen has the worst winning percentage for a head coach in the last 30 years, when given a minimum of 75 games.

Loomis and Gayle must be senile to be keeping this moron in his job.
And only a masochist of a fan, can continue to cheer for this “performance”.
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Old 11-03-2024, 04:32 PM   #46
 
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Fire Dennis Allen
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Old 11-03-2024, 04:40 PM   #47
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110 yards in penalties today.
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110 yards in penalties today.
That's what happens when you field a team made of of backups. JV's have a tendency of losing when facing other teams made up of varsity.
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Old 11-03-2024, 04:45 PM   #49
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That's what happens when you field a team made of of backups. JV's have a tendency of losing when facing other teams made up of varsity.
Other teams with REAL MANAGEMENT find a way around this kind of a disgrace.
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That's what happens when you field a team made of of backups. JV's have a tendency of losing when facing other teams made up of varsity.
Dude come on. You can’t seriously be making excuses for this pathetic product. It’s horrible. Carolina is awful. The Saints should be a better team even with some holes.

They’re now on a 7 game losing streak. I can’t believe what I’m saying but I really don’t care if they win another game this year. As long as it puts the nail in the coffin for Allen.
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