IS DENNIS ALLEN STILL HERE?

K Major · 11-03-2024, 06:56 PM

Originally Posted by jnormand

Dude come on. You can’t seriously be making excuses for this pathetic product. It’s horrible. Carolina is awful. The Saints should be a better team even with some holes.

They’re now on a 7 game losing streak.

Precisely.

Unmotivated, undisciplined. Poorly coached, poorly prepared.

Allen’s record as HC is what it is for a reason.

Sinner · 11-03-2024, 07:13 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

Precisely.

Unmotivated, undisciplined. Poorly coached, poorly prepared.

Allen’s record as HC is what it is for a reason.

In all fairness, he is not, and never was, a Head Coach.

BakoSaint · 11-03-2024, 03:48 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

That's what happens when you field a team made of of backups. JV's have a tendency of losing when facing other teams made up of varsity.

We also have a backup owner, a backup head coach, and if Sean Payton was really the defacto GM before he left, a backup GM who needs a backup liver.

AsylumGuido · 11-03-2024, 03:51 PM

Originally Posted by BakoSaint

We also have a backup owner, a backup head coach, and if Sean Payton was really the defacto GM before he left, a backup GM who needs a backup liver.

Maybe so. If we get new ones I'll be right out front giving THEM all full support just as I have for every Saints team ever fielded. Can you not understand that?

BakoSaint · 11-03-2024, 03:58 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Maybe so. If we get new ones I'll be right out front giving THEM all full support just as I have for every Saints team ever fielded. Can you not understand that?

Maybe I just have a different philosophy. If my car is old, has too many miles on it, the engine sounds like crap, and it keeps breaking down and costing more than its worth to fix, I want to go get a new different car. I don't worry that with the new car I will be in the same position of hoping it doesn't break down, or that trading in my old car will be a betrayal. I think its a good time to start fresh. Mickey Loomis and Dennis Allens brains are like Ryan Ramczyks knees, its time to put them out to pasture. Maybe he could see a neurologist and we could call it a medical retirement. 'Supporting' Ram's knees ain't going to do **** to to make them not have arthritis. 'Supporting' Dennis Allen's slow broken mind as a head coach won't make him a winner. At this point taking old yeller out behind the woodshed is the most supportive thing we can do. Fire him!

Sinner · 11-03-2024, 03:54 PM

Originally Posted by BakoSaint

We also have a backup owner, a backup head coach, and if Sean Payton was really the defacto GM before he left, a backup GM who needs a backup liver.

Damn straight. ^^^

keithday123 · 11-03-2024, 04:01 PM

I can see both of your points. As a fan you hate to bail on your team and want to support them at every turn, win or lose. But I also see the other side that it’s the fans who have to help accelerate change by not attending games and the owners seeing half empty stadiums. Yes they’ve got there money but these billionaires have something more valuable than money and that’s ego and fear of not being successful. I just happened to be in the Sinner camp on this one that changes have to be made in every area, but Guido I admire you for hanging in there.

SmashMouth · 11-03-2024, 04:04 PM

Originally Posted by keithday123

I can see both of your points. As a fan you hate to bail on your team and want to support them at every turn, win or lose. But I also see the other side that it’s the fans who have to help accelerate change by not attending games and the owners seeing half empty stadiums. Yes they’ve got there money but these billionaires have something more valuable than money and that’s ego and fear of not being successful. I just happened to be in the Sinner camp on this one that changes have to be made in every area, but Guido I admire you for hanging in there.

Except Gayle married into it .

Sinner · 11-03-2024, 04:07 PM

Originally Posted by keithday123

I can see both of your points. As a fan you hate to bail on your team and want to support them at every turn, win or lose. But I also see the other side that it’s the fans who have to help accelerate change by not attending games and the owners seeing half empty stadiums. Yes they’ve got there money but these billionaires have something more valuable than money and that’s ego and fear of not being successful. I just happened to be in the Sinner camp on this one that changes have to be made in every area, but Guido I admire you for hanging in there.

Clearly, I haven’t bailed, and if I haven’t bailed by now, I’ll never bail on THE SAINTS. But I am not contracted to wave pompoms like a zombie, when there’s a pile of dogsh*t on the field, week after week after week after week after week after week after week (that’s seven weeks), not counting the last two seasons before this one.

SmashMouth · 11-03-2024, 04:08 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Maybe the car for you is a brand new Kansas City Chief? Or do you like the styling of a classic Dallas Cowboy instead? This is an NFL franchise that has been an important part of my life since 1967. Not a ****ing car.

I support MY team regardless of the factors involved. I want them to win, but if they don't I don't care for them any less.

Originally Posted by Sinner

Clearly, I haven’t bailed, and if I haven’t bailed by now, I’ll never bail on THE SAINTS. But I am not contracted to wave pompoms like a zombie, when there’s a pile of dogsh*t on the field, week after week after week after week after week after week after week (that’s seven weeks), not counting the last two seasons before this one.

We all do... We all care.

Time for a RestoMod. We can shove a 1200HP monster crate engine in here and do better

11-03-2024, 06:56 PM	#1
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,768 Blog Entries: 3	Re: IS DENNIS ALLEN STILL HERE? Originally Posted by jnormand Dude come on. You can’t seriously be making excuses for this pathetic product. It’s horrible. Carolina is awful. The Saints should be a better team even with some holes. They’re now on a 7 game losing streak. Precisely. Unmotivated, undisciplined. Poorly coached, poorly prepared. Allen’s record as HC is what it is for a reason. UK_WhoDat, SmashMouth and Sinner like this.

11-03-2024, 07:13 PM	#2
Sinner 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 4,059	Re: IS DENNIS ALLEN STILL HERE? Originally Posted by K Major Precisely. Unmotivated, undisciplined. Poorly coached, poorly prepared. Allen’s record as HC is what it is for a reason. In all fairness, he is not, and never was, a Head Coach.
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11-03-2024, 03:48 PM	#3
BakoSaint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Dec 2018 Posts: 2,328	Re: IS DENNIS ALLEN STILL HERE? Originally Posted by AsylumGuido That's what happens when you field a team made of of backups. JV's have a tendency of losing when facing other teams made up of varsity. We also have a backup owner, a backup head coach, and if Sean Payton was really the defacto GM before he left, a backup GM who needs a backup liver.
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11-03-2024, 03:51 PM	#4
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,543	Re: IS DENNIS ALLEN STILL HERE? Originally Posted by BakoSaint We also have a backup owner, a backup head coach, and if Sean Payton was really the defacto GM before he left, a backup GM who needs a backup liver. Maybe so. If we get new ones I'll be right out front giving THEM all full support just as I have for every Saints team ever fielded. Can you not understand that?

11-03-2024, 03:58 PM	#5
BakoSaint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Dec 2018 Posts: 2,328	Re: IS DENNIS ALLEN STILL HERE? Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Maybe so. If we get new ones I'll be right out front giving THEM all full support just as I have for every Saints team ever fielded. Can you not understand that? Maybe I just have a different philosophy. If my car is old, has too many miles on it, the engine sounds like crap, and it keeps breaking down and costing more than its worth to fix, I want to go get a new different car. I don't worry that with the new car I will be in the same position of hoping it doesn't break down, or that trading in my old car will be a betrayal. I think its a good time to start fresh. Mickey Loomis and Dennis Allens brains are like Ryan Ramczyks knees, its time to put them out to pasture. Maybe he could see a neurologist and we could call it a medical retirement. 'Supporting' Ram's knees ain't going to do **** to to make them not have arthritis. 'Supporting' Dennis Allen's slow broken mind as a head coach won't make him a winner. At this point taking old yeller out behind the woodshed is the most supportive thing we can do. Fire him! Sinner likes this.
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11-03-2024, 03:54 PM	#6
Sinner 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 4,059	Re: IS DENNIS ALLEN STILL HERE? Originally Posted by BakoSaint We also have a backup owner, a backup head coach, and if Sean Payton was really the defacto GM before he left, a backup GM who needs a backup liver. Damn straight. ^^^
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11-03-2024, 04:01 PM	#7
keithday123 Texasaint Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 206	Re: IS DENNIS ALLEN STILL HERE? I can see both of your points. As a fan you hate to bail on your team and want to support them at every turn, win or lose. But I also see the other side that it’s the fans who have to help accelerate change by not attending games and the owners seeing half empty stadiums. Yes they’ve got there money but these billionaires have something more valuable than money and that’s ego and fear of not being successful. I just happened to be in the Sinner camp on this one that changes have to be made in every area, but Guido I admire you for hanging in there. Sinner likes this.
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11-03-2024, 04:04 PM	#8
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,512 Blog Entries: 29	Re: IS DENNIS ALLEN STILL HERE? Originally Posted by keithday123 I can see both of your points. As a fan you hate to bail on your team and want to support them at every turn, win or lose. But I also see the other side that it’s the fans who have to help accelerate change by not attending games and the owners seeing half empty stadiums. Yes they’ve got there money but these billionaires have something more valuable than money and that’s ego and fear of not being successful. I just happened to be in the Sinner camp on this one that changes have to be made in every area, but Guido I admire you for hanging in there. Except Gayle married into it . Sinner likes this.

11-03-2024, 04:07 PM	#9
Sinner 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 4,059	Re: IS DENNIS ALLEN STILL HERE? Originally Posted by keithday123 I can see both of your points. As a fan you hate to bail on your team and want to support them at every turn, win or lose. But I also see the other side that it’s the fans who have to help accelerate change by not attending games and the owners seeing half empty stadiums. Yes they’ve got there money but these billionaires have something more valuable than money and that’s ego and fear of not being successful. I just happened to be in the Sinner camp on this one that changes have to be made in every area, but Guido I admire you for hanging in there. Clearly, I haven’t bailed, and if I haven’t bailed by now, I’ll never bail on THE SAINTS. But I am not contracted to wave pompoms like a zombie, when there’s a pile of dogsh*t on the field, week after week after week after week after week after week after week (that’s seven weeks), not counting the last two seasons before this one.
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11-03-2024, 04:08 PM	#10
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,512 Blog Entries: 29	Re: IS DENNIS ALLEN STILL HERE? Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Maybe the car for you is a brand new Kansas City Chief? Or do you like the styling of a classic Dallas Cowboy instead? This is an NFL franchise that has been an important part of my life since 1967. Not a **ing car. I support MY team regardless of the factors involved. I want them to win, but if they don't I don't care for them any less. Originally Posted by Sinner** Clearly, I haven’t bailed, and if I haven’t bailed by now, I’ll never bail on THE SAINTS. But I am not contracted to wave pompoms like a zombie, when there’s a pile of dogsh*t on the field, week after week after week after week after week after week after week (that’s seven weeks), not counting the last two seasons before this one. We all do... We all care. Time for a RestoMod. We can shove a 1200HP monster crate engine in here and do better Sinner likes this.