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Old 10-27-2024, 06:25 PM   #1
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Observations from Saints loss at Chargers

They were the best of times; they were the worst of times. This year's incarnation of the New Orleans Saints definitely reminds us of the worst of times.

After starting 2-0, the Saints have now dropped 6 straight games and fall to 0-6. Sure, it was a hard-fought game, sure there were injuries, sure we missed key opportunities, sure we got flags because because.... but in the end...

THE SAINTS HAVE LOST 6 GAMES IN A ROW FOR THE FIRST TIME SINCE 2005. Is this the worst of times... again??



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Old 10-27-2024, 06:27 PM   #2
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Y’all don’t wanna hear it, but I’m saying that the divine Lady Miss Gayle is the problem. We got a big problem.
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Y’all don’t wanna hear it, but I’m saying that the divine Lady Miss Gayle is the problem. We got a big problem.
If she is the problem as you have mentioned, what do you propose? She sell the team to someone else and they move it somewhere else?

I really don’t understand what your goal is by saying this. I get that you’re upset. But whats your end game?

I think everyone hopes DA gets fired. I think most fans are on that boat. I feel like it’s gonna happen at the end of the season at the very latest. (Hopefully)
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Old 10-27-2024, 07:13 PM   #4
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If she is the problem as you have mentioned, what do you propose? She sell the team to someone else and they move it somewhere else?

I really don’t understand what your goal is by saying this. I get that you’re upset. But whats your end game?

I think everyone hopes DA gets fired. I think most fans are on that boat. I feel like it’s gonna happen at the end of the season at the very latest. (Hopefully)
I said, “We got a big problem”. That’s all. That’s a fact. As a fan, it’s not my job to fix it, but I would be a fool to deny it.
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Old 10-27-2024, 07:20 PM   #5
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If she is the problem as you have mentioned, what do you propose? She sell the team to someone else and they move it somewhere else?

I really don’t understand what your goal is by saying this. I get that you’re upset. But whats your end game?

I think everyone hopes DA gets fired. I think most fans are on that boat. I feel like it’s gonna happen at the end of the season at the very latest. (Hopefully)
I think, for me personally, she just isn't as engaged as Tom was. I know she is older and all that. But damn, that man was down there dancing with his umbrella until he literally had to be told not to anymore. She is nowhere to be seen during the games.

She is literally invisible. Which I guess is fine. I don't need to see shots of her in the box at every game but dang, is she even there?
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Old 10-27-2024, 07:45 PM   #6
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I think, for me personally, she just isn't as engaged as Tom was. I know she is older and all that. But damn, that man was down there dancing with his umbrella until he literally had to be told not to anymore. She is nowhere to be seen during the games.

She is literally invisible. Which I guess is fine. I don't need to see shots of her in the box at every game but dang, is she even there?
Even if she’s not around, you would think that someone would share the news about the situation, since she owns the team.
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Old 10-28-2024, 08:01 AM   #7
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Originally Posted by jnormand View Post
If she is the problem as you have mentioned, what do you propose? She sell the team to someone else and they move it somewhere else?

I really don’t understand what your goal is by saying this. I get that you’re upset. But what's your end game?

I think everyone hopes DA gets fired. I think most fans are on that boat. I feel like it’s gonna happen at the end of the season at the very latest. (Hopefully)
What is the goal by pointing out the Saints have a hamstrung unmotivated owner and General Manager?

I see fellow fans ponder/discuss/argue what moves should be made without consideration for the fact that no one within the organization is motivated to make any moves.

The Org Chart:
Gayle Benson: Tom wrote out his daughter and grandchildren so Gayle is the sole beneficiary of his estate which includes Saints and Pelicans. She has zero children, worth $6.1BN, and has zero passion for football. She has already outlined her intent to launch a foundation that would donate the proceeds of the teams’ eventual sale to charitable causes in south-east Louisiana and the surrounding region.


Mickey Loomis: Mickey is named in Tom Benson's will as second Executor in line for Tom Benson's estate. Even if you fire him, he has the best seat at the table eventually.

If Loomis were interested in a quality head coach he would have gone to a headhunter, someone that does this for a living, instead of having the proverbial locker room pick the next head coach. I still do not get how this got around the Rooney Rule... Well, I know how but those interviews were a waste of the candidates time. When you pick from within, that is the intent from the start.


Dennis Allen: If Allen had the character to step down, he wouldn't have accepted it in the first place. If Allen had the acumen required, he would have recognized that he is not suited for the job.


Gayle has already stated that she would not sell the team unless the sale had a guarantee of leaving the Saints in New Orleans.

This is all being said by people because this is the problem and every other discussion is about how to treat a symptom. Nothing is cured by only treating symptoms. So to spin it, I ask.. Why is everyone discussing things that cure nothing?
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Old 10-28-2024, 08:19 AM   #8
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What is the goal by pointing out the Saints have a hamstrung unmotivated owner and General Manager?

I see fellow fans ponder/discuss/argue what moves should be made without consideration for the fact that no one within the organization is motivated to make any moves.

The Org Chart:
Gayle Benson: Tom wrote out his daughter and grandchildren so Gayle is the sole beneficiary of his estate which includes Saints and Pelicans. She has zero children, worth $6.1BN, and has zero passion for football. She has already outlined her intent to launch a foundation that would donate the proceeds of the teams’ eventual sale to charitable causes in south-east Louisiana and the surrounding region.


Mickey Loomis: Mickey is named in Tom Benson's will as second Executor in line for Tom Benson's estate. Even if you fire him, he has the best seat at the table eventually.

If Loomis were interested in a quality head coach he would have gone to a headhunter, someone that does this for a living, instead of having the proverbial locker room pick the next head coach. I still do not get how this got around the Rooney Rule... Well, I know how but those interviews were a waste of the candidates time. When you pick from within, that is the intent from the start.


Dennis Allen: If Allen had the character to step down, he wouldn't have accepted it in the first place. If Allen had the acumen required, he would have recognized that he is not suited for the job.


Gayle has already stated that she would not sell the team unless the sale had a guarantee of leaving the Saints in New Orleans.

This is all being said by people because this is the problem and every other discussion is about how to treat a symptom. Nothing is cured by only treating symptoms. So to spin it, I ask.. Why is everyone discussing things that cure nothing?

THANK YOU SIR. EXACTLY!
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Man come on. i saw some real positive attitudes from the guys walking around on the sidelines.
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Old 10-29-2024, 04:23 PM   #10
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Man come on. i saw some real positive attitudes from the guys walking around on the sidelines.
yeah... probably saying "just a couple more hours, and we outta here!"
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