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saintsfan1976 11-04-2024 05:58 PM

2024 Trade Deadline - Who Goes?
 
Chase Young for a 3rd or 4th. I'd hope for a 3rd since his salary is low.

Lattimore for a 3rd or 4th & swap late rounders.

Kamara? I hope not.

Demario?

Olave?

AsylumGuido 11-04-2024 06:14 PM

Re: 2024 Trade Deadline - Who Goes?
 
Kamara has already said he'll retire and "move to Africa" before playing anywhere other than New Orleans. I believe him. Going nowhere.

Olave has no market given his recent injury history.

Demario? See Kamara above.

There may not be any. We'll need them for our run to 10-7 and the NFC South title in historic fashion on the way to winning the Lombardi in the Home Dome!

neugey 11-04-2024 06:40 PM

Re: 2024 Trade Deadline - Who Goes?
 
There's so little time to work with, and we don't have leverage. Don't count on many deals going through or getting a good return. A 5th for Lattimore might be as good as it gets.

BakoSaint 11-04-2024 08:26 PM

Re: 2024 Trade Deadline - Who Goes?
 
I would be surprised if we got anything more than a 4th or 5th max for Lattimore. No team wants Lattimore next year for $18m with his health and age so its an 8 game rental of a player whose health makes them a 50/50 bet to remain available. The one attractive thing for teams trading for Lattimore is that we already ate his salary with a restructure so the rental would only cost $0.5m.

It would not make sense to extend Kamara and trade him. I don't buy the whole Africa thing. I think that was pillow talk to get Loomis to bend over and pay him way above market by saying 'I love you more than anyone else, I could never be with anyone else, we were meant to be, now bend over.' But trading Kamara would trigger a cap hit of $12m so I don't think we do it. Kamaras contract is structured so most of his new money came as a bonus we paid that day, so we don't save much by moving him anymore, and no team wants to give high picks for an aging RB when lots of teams got better RBs for free in free agency.

The return for players like Davis and Mathieu who are showing decline of age and tons of rust would be little or nothing.

Adebo was a player we could have traded if healthy, but so much for that.

Olave is so cheap and young I think we might get a 4th for him even with concussion issues if he wants to continue playing. A team trading for him would be risking $3.5m for a potential #1 WR if they have a QB with better touch to avoid hospital balls. The Dolphins gave OBJ $3m + 5.25m incentives for two years. $3.5m for a flyer on 1.5 years of Olave is a decent bet. If Olave returned to form but left in 2026, that other team would stand to gain a high comp pick. The problem with trading Olave for a 4th is that his salary is so cheap this year and for the rest of the contract that the cap relief is fairly minimal.

rezburna 11-04-2024 08:39 PM

Re: 2024 Trade Deadline - Who Goes?
 
I’d ride the season out, fire Mickey Loomis, and let a new GM decide what he wants to do with the piece we have. If we have a top 5 pick then I’d like to draft Cam Ward or Shedeur Sanders, but if we trade back and pick up more capital I understand. If we could trade back a spot or two and get Will Campbell to pair with Fuaga that would be a great start. Try to grab Tate Ratledge to plug at LG and grab a RB like Judkins from Ohio State. Sign Mac Jones to a cheap two year deal and see what you can get at QB in 2026. Sucks to have to speculate in November for next year.

saintsfan1976 11-05-2024 05:13 AM

Re: 2024 Trade Deadline - Who Goes?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 1004769)
I’d ride the season out, fire Mickey Loomis, and let a new GM decide what he wants to do with the piece we have. If we have a top 5 pick then I’d like to draft Cam Ward or Shedeur Sanders, but if we trade back and pick up more capital I understand. If we could trade back a spot or two and get Will Campbell to pair with Fuaga that would be a great start. Try to grab Tate Ratledge to plug at LG and grab a RB like Judkins from Ohio State. Sign Mac Jones to a cheap two year deal and see what you can get at QB in 2026. Sucks to have to speculate in November for next year.

If I were remotely confident in the possibility of a new GM then yes, I'd be okay with that.

However we need to assume he's here next season.

Young - better to get something for him before he hits free agency. I don't think he'll command top dollar but teams may easily outbid us.

Lattimore - another season, another injury... Great player but not worth the contract as he approaches 30. Personally, I'd love to see him get a ring somewhere.

Kamara - This is the one player I strongly believe should remain in New Orleans. He has so much left to give despite age.

SmashMouth 11-05-2024 07:28 AM

Re: 2024 Trade Deadline - Who Goes?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 1004769)
I’d ride the season out, fire Mickey Loomis, and let a new GM decide what he wants to do with the piece we have. If we have a top 5 pick then I’d like to draft Cam Ward or Shedeur Sanders, but if we trade back and pick up more capital I understand. If we could trade back a spot or two and get Will Campbell to pair with Fuaga that would be a great start. Try to grab Tate Ratledge to plug at LG and grab a RB like Judkins from Ohio State. Sign Mac Jones to a cheap two year deal and see what you can get at QB in 2026. Sucks to have to speculate in November for next year.

Not bad, but we need more beef on both sides. I'd honestly pass on picking a QB early. And yes, RB is an increasingly stronger need. What happened, we used to strike gold even in UDFAs routinely.

rezburna 11-05-2024 07:53 AM

Re: 2024 Trade Deadline - Who Goes?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 1004778)
Not bad, but we need more beef on both sides. I'd honestly pass on picking a QB early. And yes, RB is an increasingly stronger need. What happened, we used to strike gold even in UDFAs routinely.

Sean Payton must have been the one with the eye for running backs.

saintsfan1976 11-05-2024 07:59 AM

Re: 2024 Trade Deadline - Who Goes?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 1004782)
Sean Payton must have been the one with the eye for running backs.

I'm still salty we should've drafted Achane

vpheughan 11-05-2024 08:58 AM

Re: 2024 Trade Deadline - Who Goes?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 (Post 1004758)
Chase Young for a 3rd or 4th. I'd hope for a 3rd since his salary is low.

Lattimore for a 3rd or 4th & swap late rounders.

Kamara? I hope not.

Demario?

Olave?


We all know the next head coach will want HIS TEAM and most of this roster will be gone. The rest of the season should be used to see which players want to PLAY. Raid other teams practice squads, cut overpaid under performing players. Blow the whole thing up!

Lattimore: Trade Him

Kamara: As long as he produces.

Olave should go on IR for the rest of the year or possibly call it a career. Constant Concussions are nothing to be taken lightly.

With all due respect, Demario should have gone 3 years ago along with Cam Jordan. Good Old CSP! Kept his "favorites" way past their prime and / or didn't know what he had in others. (Zach Baun, Marcus Williams, Trey Hendrickson, Shy Tuttle and on and on.)

The starting MLB for 2 of the better / best NFC teams are former Saints: Alex Anzalone for the Lions, and Kaden Ellis for the Falcons. Watching Ellis and Anzalone Sunday should have made all Saints Fans sick.


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