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arsaint 12-09-2024 03:49 PM

Any rumors on new head coach?
 
I can't see Rizzi staying on as HC.


Anyone hearing who might be brought in?

SmashMouth 12-09-2024 05:41 PM

Re: Any rumors on new head coach?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by arsaint (Post 1005896)
I can't see Rizzi staying on as HC.


Anyone hearing who might be brought in?

Haleaux put in an application, FWIW...

Halo 12-09-2024 05:44 PM

Re: Any rumors on new head coach?
 
Belichick says he wants to coach again next season whether it's college or pro.

iceshack149 12-09-2024 06:37 PM

Re: Any rumors on new head coach?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 1005898)
Haleaux put in an application, FWIW...

You got this, Halo.
https://dallasvintageshop.com/wp-con...s/dsc01368.JPG

saintsfan1976 12-09-2024 07:24 PM

Re: Any rumors on new head coach?
 
Aaron Glenn?

Ben Johnson?

Both check the organization's boxes and seem realistic.

It'll be interesting to see what happens with
- Loomis; is there a rift between he and Gayle?
- Roster; Old, thin, who's the QB?
- Salary Cap; $77MM over the '25 cap is not ideal for a first year HC

voodooido 12-10-2024 03:24 PM

Re: Any rumors on new head coach?
 
Not sure anyone worth their weight will want this job. The age and cap is insane. Honestly I have no clue how we will get under the cap. Maybe if RR and Jordan retires. That would be a good start. Carr has a dead cap of 51 million. All this kicking the can down the road has killed any type of future anytime soon.

BakoSaint 12-10-2024 04:42 PM

Re: Any rumors on new head coach?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by voodooido (Post 1005928)
Not sure anyone worth their weight will want this job. The age and cap is insane. Honestly I have no clue how we will get under the cap. Maybe if RR and Jordan retires. That would be a good start. Carr has a dead cap of 51 million. All this kicking the can down the road has killed any type of future anytime soon.

If would be beneficial to our cap situation if players like Ram and Jordan would be willing to reduce their base salary to $1 million with no additional restructuring bonus, then retire June 1, making the dead cap hit affect the 2026 cap not 2025.

If we restructure Carr, his dead cap hit will be just as large in 2026 offseason, there will never be the right time to move on, the 'future out' is based on the false premise of no restructures between now and then. We should either designate Carr a post-June-1 cut or demand he take a pay cut to stay on the team. I don't think any other team would pay Carr what we do after 2 years of concussions, injury, inconsistency, and in his mid-30's with zero playoff wins, so we should correct the contract to market rate for a Garappalo - Minshew type QB.

SmashMouth 12-11-2024 08:16 AM

Re: Any rumors on new head coach?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BakoSaint (Post 1005931)
If would be beneficial to our cap situation if players like Ram and Jordan would be willing to reduce their base salary to $1 million with no additional restructuring bonus, then retire June 1, making the dead cap hit affect the 2026 cap not 2025.

If we restructure Carr, his dead cap hit will be just as large in 2026 offseason, there will never be the right time to move on, the 'future out' is based on the false premise of no restructures between now and then. We should either designate Carr a post-June-1 cut or demand he take a pay cut to stay on the team. I don't think any other team would pay Carr what we do after 2 years of concussions, injury, inconsistency, and in his mid-30's with zero playoff wins, so we should correct the contract to market rate for a Garappalo - Minshew type QB.

Except Carr thinks he gave us a discount... did he mean a discount on performance, I wonder? :p

Rugby Saint II 12-11-2024 01:33 PM

Re: Any rumors on new head coach?
 
It's been a while since Bill Belichick has done anything. I'm afraid the game has passed him by. I want younger coaches with me philosophies.

SmashMouth 12-11-2024 05:53 PM

Re: Any rumors on new head coach?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II (Post 1005941)
It's been a while since Bill Belichick has done anything. I'm afraid the game has passed him by. I want younger coaches with me philosophies.


arsaint 12-12-2024 10:14 AM

Re: Any rumors on new head coach?
 
Won't be Belly-check.

He just signed a 5 year deal with U of North Carolina to be their coach.

SmashMouth 12-12-2024 10:56 AM

Re: Any rumors on new head coach?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by arsaint (Post 1005951)
Won't be Belly-check.

He just signed a 5 year deal with U of North Carolina to be their coach.




WhoDat!656 12-13-2024 10:50 AM

Re: Any rumors on new head coach?
 
Source: The #Saints brass thinks very highly of #Lions DC Aaron Glenn

https://www.reddit.com/r/detroitlion...ery_highly_of/

jnormand 12-13-2024 01:21 PM

Re: Any rumors on new head coach?
 
It’s just weird seeing old rich dudes with young gfs and wives. Lol.

saintsfan1976 12-14-2024 07:24 AM

Re: Any rumors on new head coach?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by WhoDat!656 (Post 1005955)
Source: The #Saints brass thinks very highly of #Lions DC Aaron Glenn

https://www.reddit.com/r/detroitlion...ery_highly_of/

And they should. I just don't love the idea of a defensive minded coach running today's NFL teams. Wish Kubiak's first year wasn't mired in injuries, we could get a better understanding of his offense's longevity

SmashMouth 12-14-2024 08:38 AM

Re: Any rumors on new head coach?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jnormand (Post 1005957)
It’s just weird seeing old rich dudes with young gfs and wives. Lol.

Can they keep up, I wonder? :bugeyes:

UK_WhoDat 12-14-2024 10:42 AM

Re: Any rumors on new head coach?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 1005965)
Can they keep up, I wonder? :bugeyes:

Keep what up :band:

spkb25 12-15-2024 02:13 PM

Re: Any rumors on new head coach?
 
This is not a team or organization on a good position. Old pass their prime talent. Terrible, I mean horrific cap situation where your gm just kicks the can down the road.

This team is in big trouble

BakoSaint 12-15-2024 02:37 PM

Re: Any rumors on new head coach?
 
Teddy Bridgewater?

spkb25 12-15-2024 03:19 PM

Re: Any rumors on new head coach?
 
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Originally Posted by BakoSaint (Post 1006083)
Teddy Bridgewater?

Probably teddy atlas

papz 12-15-2024 04:17 PM

Re: Any rumors on new head coach?
 
If the Bengals don’t hire Joe Brady, I have a feeling he’ll be our next head coach.

spkb25 12-18-2024 03:40 PM

Re: Any rumors on new head coach?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Halo (Post 1005899)
Belichick says he wants to coach again next season whether it's college or pro.

Was 39-62 without Brady. Coaching in NC

saintsfan1976 12-18-2024 06:35 PM

Re: Any rumors on new head coach?
 
I'd take Teddy B on the staff.

lee909 12-19-2024 07:49 PM

Re: Any rumors on new head coach?
 
No to a older coach for me
The game is changing very quickly at the moment. You can't really play a physical defense anymore, offense speed seems so much faster. You can't just plod your way downfield anymore, you need to be able to get in a firefight. Add to that this team looks a couple of years off doing much as it's needs trimmed of the players who are now to old and overpaid due to the constant extensions from terrible upper management and cap stupidity.

Get a younger coach in and tell him the first year is about shaping the team how he wants it and within reason results won't lose him the job. That let's them leave out vets who arnt in the long term thinking.

Anyone over 30-32 should be available for trade if possible within the cap. No signing players over 30 for anything above vet minimum.

This roster needs to get younger,faster and healthier and fast

SmashMouth 12-20-2024 07:34 AM

Re: Any rumors on new head coach?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by papz (Post 1006134)
If the Bengals don’t hire Joe Brady, I have a feeling he’ll be our next head coach.

Is this Brady HC material?

Quote:

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 (Post 1006186)
I'd take Teddy B on the staff.

He wants back in the NFL as a QB, I just read.

papz 12-20-2024 07:49 AM

Re: Any rumors on new head coach?
 
Yes. Will he be successful? That remains to be seen. He does however have a connection to Loomis and has that Buffalo offense humming since he took over last season.

SmashMouth 12-20-2024 08:08 AM

Re: Any rumors on new head coach?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by papz (Post 1006208)
Yes. Will he be successful? That remains to be seen. He does however have a connection to Loomis and has that Buffalo offense humming since he took over last season.

Why was he fired from the Panties?

papz 12-20-2024 09:15 AM

Re: Any rumors on new head coach?
 
Because they were a really bad football team.

lee909 12-20-2024 03:49 PM

Re: Any rumors on new head coach?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by papz (Post 1006210)
Because they were a really bad football team.

https://media4.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2...zna/giphy.webp

BakoSaint 12-20-2024 04:18 PM

Re: Any rumors on new head coach?
 
If Rizzi continues to outperform I think it would be interesting to retain him but on a very very modest contract only. I dont want to get stuck paying him a 5 year guaranteed deal and having to keep him in 2026 if he bombs in 2025. I don't think there will be much competition for him. I don't think we will be the choice of top candidates this year because of our cap and roster situation, if one picks us anyway I think we might doom them for the same reasons, and I see Rizzi as a good rebuild caretaker with some possible upside. No team has ever done it but I dont see why we cannot offer Rizzi a contract where not all the years are guaranteed, allow him to remain with the interim coach title still, or give him a very basic deal like 2 years $4.5 million.

I think the best bet for a coach is a second time coach who just made the playoffs or had a winning record but didnt win the superbowl in his first gig and is still hungry. Examples would be Dick Vermeil, Bill Belichick, Pete Carroll, Andy Reid, and now Jim Harbaugh who is the one I wanted us to hire.

I could see a scenario where Kyle Shanahan is available in 2026 because the 49ers just barely missed their window and are now going into cap and aging vet hell. Kevin Stefanski too. Sean McDermott. A lot of quality coaches could get dumped because they couldnt beat prime Mahomes, and be very hungry as Mahomes exits his prime and the Chiefs cap gets worse and Jones and Kelce get old.

SmashMouth 12-21-2024 06:39 AM

Re: Any rumors on new head coach?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BakoSaint (Post 1006215)
If Rizzi continues to outperform I think it would be interesting to retain him but on a very very modest contract only. I dont want to get stuck paying him a 5 year guaranteed deal and having to keep him in 2026 if he bombs in 2025. I don't think there will be much competition for him. I don't think we will be the choice of top candidates this year because of our cap and roster situation, if one picks us anyway I think we might doom them for the same reasons, and I see Rizzi as a good rebuild caretaker with some possible upside. No team has ever done it but I dont see why we cannot offer Rizzi a contract where not all the years are guaranteed, allow him to remain with the interim coach title still, or give him a very basic deal like 2 years $4.5 million.

I think the best bet for a coach is a second time coach who just made the playoffs or had a winning record but didnt win the superbowl in his first gig and is still hungry. Examples would be Dick Vermeil, Bill Belichick, Pete Carroll, Andy Reid, and now Jim Harbaugh who is the one I wanted us to hire.

I could see a scenario where Kyle Shanahan is available in 2026 because the 49ers just barely missed their window and are now going into cap and aging vet hell. Kevin Stefanski too. Sean McDermott. A lot of quality coaches could get dumped because they couldnt beat prime Mahomes, and be very hungry as Mahomes exits his prime and the Chiefs cap gets worse and Jones and Kelce get old.

Some nuggets in there... it takes more than a good coach though.


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