Observations from the Saints loss to the Commanders

12-17-2024, 02:06 PM

We literally needed to convert a 2 point conversion to win the game. Are you telling me they would have stopped us 100% of the time? IF you aren't telling me that, we could have won that game. If we are a playoff team we kick the pat and probably go to overtime and don't risk that there. I mean be honest, do you think winning that game helps us more long term than losing?

Rugby Saint II · 12-17-2024, 04:14 PM

The second half was inspiring. I thought the decision to go for it was the right call. We lost the game and have a little bit better draft position because of it. I was satisfied with the outcome.

mapcow · 12-18-2024, 09:46 PM

Originally Posted by hitta

We literally needed to convert a 2 point conversion to win the game. Are you telling me they would have stopped us 100% of the time? IF you aren't telling me that, we could have won that game. If we are a playoff team we kick the pat and probably go to overtime and don't risk that there. I mean be honest, do you think winning that game helps us more long term than losing?

for me, yes. but then again, i am biased to winning. honestly..... how often is a 2 pt conversion successful....especially when the opposing team is fighting for the win?

BakoSaint · 12-19-2024, 08:44 PM

Originally Posted by hitta

We literally needed to convert a 2 point conversion to win the game. Are you telling me they would have stopped us 100% of the time? IF you aren't telling me that, we could have won that game. If we are a playoff team we kick the pat and probably go to overtime and don't risk that there. I mean be honest, do you think winning that game helps us more long term than losing?

I don't think that the decision greatly changes our odds of winning. The 2pt conversion is 50/50. Overtime is 50/50. Not a big difference. And either way I don't think we make the playoffs. If we win we are still a game behind the Falcons for 2nd place in the division who have an easier schedule than us the rest of the way, and the Falcons are not currently in line for the playoffs.

Honestly what OT would give us with our luck is an opportunity for another injury. Probably if we go to OT, Fuaga suffers a hip fracture on a freak play and missed the 2025 season.

Getting it over with, win or lose, was the right call in that situation.

SmashMouth · 12-21-2024, 09:39 AM

I think Spencer Rattler has shown enough to supplant Derek Carr as the starter going forward.

SmashMouth · 12-21-2024, 09:39 AM

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dizzle88 · 12-22-2024, 03:01 PM

Derek Carr would have never led that final drive that Rattler did.

He would have done that dumbass "oh there's a rusher, I'll run backwards and just heave a pass nowhere" thing he does at least 3 times every game

subguy · 12-23-2024, 06:08 AM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

I think Spencer Rattler has shown enough to supplant Derek Carr as the starter going forward.

In one game? Carr is not good, but we saw Rattler before and they had to switch to Haener. We will see again, trying to be positive, but my gut tells me we will see a below par showing

subguy · 12-24-2024, 04:39 AM

Originally Posted by subguy

In one game? Carr is not good, but we saw Rattler before and they had to switch to Haener. We will see again, trying to be positive, but my gut tells me we will see a below par showing

Prophecy realized

12-17-2024, 02:06 PM	#31
Threaded by hitta 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 1,327 Rating: (0 votes - average) We literally needed to convert a 2 point conversion to win the game. Are you telling me they would have stopped us 100% of the time? IF you aren't telling me that, we could have won that game. If we are a playoff team we kick the pat and probably go to overtime and don't risk that there. I mean be honest, do you think winning that game helps us more long term than losing?
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12-17-2024, 04:14 PM	#32
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,089	Re: Observations from the Saints loss to the Commanders The second half was inspiring. I thought the decision to go for it was the right call. We lost the game and have a little bit better draft position because of it. I was satisfied with the outcome. UK_WhoDat, jnormand and leilung like this.

12-18-2024, 09:46 PM	#33
mapcow Just a Fan Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 1,814	Re: Observations from the Saints loss to the Commanders Originally Posted by hitta We literally needed to convert a 2 point conversion to win the game. Are you telling me they would have stopped us 100% of the time? IF you aren't telling me that, we could have won that game. If we are a playoff team we kick the pat and probably go to overtime and don't risk that there. I mean be honest, do you think winning that game helps us more long term than losing? for me, yes. but then again, i am biased to winning. honestly..... how often is a 2 pt conversion successful....especially when the opposing team is fighting for the win?
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12-19-2024, 08:44 PM	#34
BakoSaint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Dec 2018 Posts: 2,199	Re: Observations from the Saints loss to the Commanders Originally Posted by hitta We literally needed to convert a 2 point conversion to win the game. Are you telling me they would have stopped us 100% of the time? IF you aren't telling me that, we could have won that game. If we are a playoff team we kick the pat and probably go to overtime and don't risk that there. I mean be honest, do you think winning that game helps us more long term than losing? I don't think that the decision greatly changes our odds of winning. The 2pt conversion is 50/50. Overtime is 50/50. Not a big difference. And either way I don't think we make the playoffs. If we win we are still a game behind the Falcons for 2nd place in the division who have an easier schedule than us the rest of the way, and the Falcons are not currently in line for the playoffs. Honestly what OT would give us with our luck is an opportunity for another injury. Probably if we go to OT, Fuaga suffers a hip fracture on a freak play and missed the 2025 season. Getting it over with, win or lose, was the right call in that situation. SaintFanInATLHELL, jnormand and Danno like this.
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12-21-2024, 09:39 AM	#35
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,265 Blog Entries: 29	Re: Observations from the Saints loss to the Commanders I think Spencer Rattler has shown enough to supplant Derek Carr as the starter going forward.

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12-22-2024, 03:01 PM	#37
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,505	Re: Observations from the Saints loss to the Commanders Derek Carr would have never led that final drive that Rattler did. He would have done that dumbass "oh there's a rusher, I'll run backwards and just heave a pass nowhere" thing he does at least 3 times every game

12-23-2024, 06:08 AM	#38
subguy 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: FL Posts: 2,098	Re: Observations from the Saints loss to the Commanders Originally Posted by SmashMouth I think Spencer Rattler has shown enough to supplant Derek Carr as the starter going forward. In one game? Carr is not good, but we saw Rattler before and they had to switch to Haener. We will see again, trying to be positive, but my gut tells me we will see a below par showing iceshack149 likes this.

12-24-2024, 04:39 AM	#39
subguy 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: FL Posts: 2,098	Re: Observations from the Saints loss to the Commanders Originally Posted by subguy In one game? Carr is not good, but we saw Rattler before and they had to switch to Haener. We will see again, trying to be positive, but my gut tells me we will see a below par showing Prophecy realized