Observations from Saints loss to Raiders in the Superdome
 

Here we are again, with one week left in the NFL season, the long and horrible 2024 season is almost over.

The Saints can't catch, can't protect, can't tackle, and can't do much correctly, lost a not so interesting game in the Superdome to a very bad Raiders team.

Bang your thoughts here and share!!!

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As usual, whoever we play, ends up controlling the line of scrimmage.

Rattler made some nice throws and some rookie mistakes. I can't believe too harsh on him though, he's the only one that looked like he's even trying.

The O line showed no pride in trying to protect him, they'd let him get decked and then offer him a hand up. No passion, no fight, nothing.

Defense, they all need to be sent to the old people's home.

Demario has been awful all season, even bits of last year too.

Kool-Aid and Taylor are awful at CB.

D line non existent as usual.

Got blown out at home by the 3 win raiders, Gayle needs to sell the team or fire Loomis, or both.

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Well, I can't say I have a lot of positive to say except, if Rattler had a decent offensive line, I think he's a very viable starter in the NFL. Also, happy to see the addition of Clyde Edward-Helaire. That's about all.

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We simply cannot expect to develop an identity, beyond joke of the league, by haphazardly jamming incomplete pieces together and doing patchwork on a culture that is not fundamentally sound. We keep changing bandaids on a wound that never heals. The wound is an OWNER who is out of touch with a culture of WINNING PROFESSIONAL FOOTBALL. Y’all can move the pawns around however you wish, but if the Queen ain’t on the table, we ain’t winning.

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I like Rattler, but he's raw.
Get rid of Loomis and reboot this roster.
Demario is done. So is Honey Badger.
Cam is great but I would lovehim to be our D line coach, not playing.
Move Gay to the Mike and see what the difference is.
Safetys are question marks. I'd like to see what they can do in a different D scheme.
Taylor is a slot defender, not a shut down corner. Kool-aid is servicable.

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I didn’t watch the game but saw Miller only had a handful of touches. What he hurt? If he wasn’t, he shouldn’t have a roster spot on this team next season.

So much work to be done this off season. Hopefully we can find the right person to help us build. I hope we don’t spend draft capital this year on a quarterback. We can wait until ‘26 if we’re looking for a franchise quarterback. Build the trenches and better days will come.

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Well it was a barn burner. At least we know what we’ve got (or don’t got) come the off season.

Should be interesting.

I almost feel like they’re tanking the last 2 games.

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I have only seen the highlights today
Overall its really really bad. There is little cap flexability without doing the same damn thing that hasn't been working for the past 5 years. It leaves me feeling exactly the same as before, blow it up.

I would 100% start with Carr, we don't save anything by cutting him and i don't see the benefit of even giving him a post June cut as they still need to be cap compliant before his cut. So cut him immediatley. There is no upside to Carr at least with Rattler he is young and you can give him the starts and see if he has anything to work with. It won't happen as there isn't a cap benefit to keep him and cutting him and eating the dead money is a really bad look for Loomis. So he will still be here and having him start will probably end up guaranteeing the team 5/6 wins and just blowing a top 5 pick in a season that will be a disater either way.

2026 looks like the time when they will have the ability to start sorting the mess out.

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Imagine how painful it is to read what you just wrote, as someone who loudly booed the acquisition of said Raider Curbside Trash from day one, among other things. I got torched on here for four years for “b*tching and moaning” about upper (mis) management, and here we aren’t… again. Not even close to a “rebuild”.

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Just reading Nick Underhills latest piece from Mathieu comments. They are not good reading. Pretty said every practise for the last 3 years is at walking pace and it's no wonder players can't tackle and get hurt. It's a pretty brutal assessment and read

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Ah a good season or 3 of losing 12 or more games is like natures forest fire.

It just burns up and gets rid of all the older less cap friendly guys and leaves room for some younger talent while the team gets a fresh set of coaches.

It also burns out all the fake fans who will start following other clubs because the Saints suck again and won’t be that fun to watch.

It might be ugly, but sometimes it’s necessary.

The pendulum can only be held back so long before it swings full. And it’s coming.

Exciting times are ahead!

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Truth in that
Its just if Loomis allows it to happen or if he tries to delay it again and leave the team in 6-8 win pergatory. But if you get the right people in and scout well you can turn things around pretty quick. Hopefully one 2026/27 drafts will have a good crop of QBs because nothing turns a franchise round quicker than a QB on a rookie deal

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You could have written that three years ago, and it would be true. Now it’s just funny. See you here next week? Or is it “next year”? Or maybe a couple or several years after that? Or for as long as old lady Benson sticks around? LMFAO

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That's Cam knowing he has Loomis by the dangily bits because he's owed 20ml(cap hit) and it'll cost them money on the cap to cut him

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Maybe the Saints should shut the door to the Saints Hall of Fame to Cam and never induct him. True greats like Brees retired when they knew they could no longer contribute, not dressed like a pirate and robbed their teams future. Cam always got the stats to get paid, but his inability to play at another level in the biggest games is one reason the Saints never got another ring, while players like Aaron Donald, Vin Miller, and Chris Jones did. Jordan has a fun personality, but in the end it all remains about himself not the team.

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Miller is a Glass Tiger and NOT a durable RB. It's pretty clear that he has checked out and waiting to be put on waivers.

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Let Miller walk. There are a crap ton of RB's in the upcoming NFL draft that will outperform Miller. He was never the guy in the TCU peak season and I never got what we saw in him. Another empty RAS score instead of competent evaluation.

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https://x.com/Saints/status/18734945...bAmigs43w&s=19

Demario doing his best to show that he needs to retire too.

He's been god awful most of the last 2 years, everyone saw it yesterday. At least 2 or 3 steps late on every single play, missed tackles, can't defend a pass, yet wants to preach and tells people to not panic on a 4 year playoff drought.

Sounds like Loomis put the script in front of him. Been a great player for us, but he's missed the mark here and he's no longer the player he was.

Cut bait, get younger players.

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Clyde Edwards-Helaire started. He was good. Have no idea what is up with Miller.

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Local news on tv in Nola, and newspaper said Cam realizes it was probably his last game in the Superdome yesterday.

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He's too soft ...

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I'm not sure how they can cut him other than a post June cut which doesn't help getting under the cap when the league starts. Cutting him before the season will mean the Sai ts go from 63ml over to 67ml. Can't see anyone trading for him at his cap hit either.

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it is so bad with the Saints, the ever so diligent optimist is AWOL....:beatnik:

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He goes on a cruise with no wifi or cell signal, and the band plays “Kumbaya”, until the ship sinks, then he swims to shore and makes a five hour drive to come home and call us “Haters”.

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This may be the shortest thread from the game day in history. Man, it is sad to watch the Saints right now. Oh well, there's always next year. Right?

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Add RB to the list (later rounds).

You're right. You can’t count on Miller each week.

Brittle.