Saints have interest in Mike Vrabel, Gruden mentioned
 

NFL Network insider Tom Pelissero made an appearance Tuesday on "Good Morning Football" and dropped a couple of hints as to whom the Saints might pursue to replace Dennis Allen.

"Pelissero mentioned New Orleans as one of many teams "doing homework" on veteran coach Mike Vrabel, whom the Tennessee Titans fired after last season despite a largely successful six-year tenure. Vrabel was 54-45 and led the Titans to the playoffs three times."

Jon Gruden was also mentioned as an option for several teams with head coaching openings.

"I would not be surprised at all if in the coming weeks, you see Jon Gruden's name popping up interviewing for a head coaching job."

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Why?
Recycle the trash that someone else got rid of?

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There is precedent for head coaches doing great in their second gigs who made the playoffs but didnt win it all in their first gig. There is not a precedent for coaches winning it all in their third or fourth gig, or winning it all with two teams. Also Gruden would be a bad move because it would be like spitting in Goodell's face and he would sick the refs back on us.

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TBH, I am not sure there is a better option than Vrabel at the moment. He's a BB disciple too.

Gruden would be tempted to keep Carr. And we can't have that. And his baggage with RG, while unfair, could have negative consequences for the team. We may all be secretly hoping Gruden wins his lawsuit.

Brian Flores seems to be an intriguing option, but he did have his shot in Miami already. Maybe he'd be my number 2. Maybe he should be the number 1 option. He was the architect of the delicious FailClowns 28-3 meltdown. Then again, he sued the NFL for the SP/Brady to Miami debacle. Maybe that's why he got fired from Miami if the owner did not approve of the blowup. Maybe that's a better reason to keep him on our short list. He's Hispanic too.

Aaron Glenn will likely wind up in NY with the J E T S.

Not sure the assistant offensive coach names bantered about are ready to be a HC just yet. The Tomlin's of the world are a rare breed, unproven never-been-a-HC stepping up to fulfill the responsibilities of the office of HC properly.

We'll see what unfolds... :popcorn:

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Bring Neon Deon to the crescent city..... perfect attitude and match
:beatnik:

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I really hope that's a joke.


Anyway, no to Gruden. He's been out of the game too long.

Flores and Vrabel are interesting options if you want someone with head coach experience.

Glenn isn't a bad option either.

I just want them to go through the process and not just hire the first guy they like.

I know the team is in bad shape cap wise, so that may give a couple of the candidates second thoughts. But it's an NFL head coaching job. Someone will take it. It just may not be our first choice.

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no joke.... Deon is EXACTLY what the team and the city needs. bill it as, "the team he liked to beat, will now be the team to defeat" ... perfect attitude and match..... :beatnik: ALL others are has beens.....Flores :rofl: Vrabel :rofl: Glenn (favorite of Loomis) :rofl:

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But you still have Mickey Loomis as GM🤦.

This franchise is in trouble.

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exactly.... and he likes Glenn.... :beatnik:

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I'm not in favor of bringing in a college coach as a head coach. It's just too big of a transition from most coaches to the nfl. I would rather have an offensive minded coach so that we didn't lose our OC every couple of years. Still, Vrabel or Glenn would probably work here.

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Vrabel's TN HC record:

2018 9-7
2019 9-7 (Playoffs 2-1. Lost to KC in AFC Championship Game.)
2020 11-5 (Playoffs 0-1. Lost to BAL in AFC Wild Card Game.)
2021 12-5 (Playoffs 0-1. Lost to CIN in AFC Divisional Playoff Game)
2020 7-12
2021 6-11

He was a pretty good Defensive mind, but his Offenses were far from scary. Keep in mind that his current position is Coaching and Personnel consultant with the Browns! So, with the Saints' Front Office at least as dysfunctional as the Titans', is this the guy to reset the team?

Do we need an Offensive mind or continue sign another Defensive minded HC. Or do we go off the menu and try a fresh set of eyes. IE. Ben Johnson, Brian Flores, Joe Brady, Kellen Moore, or my favorite Aaron Glenn. And does it even really matter with the same front office jacking up the cap and missing on pre-draft talent evaluations?

Thoughts.

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time for new blood and new attitude....any pre-existing NFL coaches looking for work or being released, are for a reason... more than likely, that they cannot produce what is expected.... :beatnik:

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Gruden: 117 - 112 A .511 Career Record
Vrabel: 54 - 45 A .545 Career Record

Why all the interest in them?

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I think I'm ready for Flores this go around.

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Anybody but a re-tread. But again, it won't mean squat if the same front office is pulling all of the strings!:brood:

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Just say NO to Vrabel and Gruden.

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They're also looking at Joe Brady from the Bills.

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How can you label Glenn as a has been? Don’t think a position coach should be labeled a has been, since he’s never had the keys to any car. And Sanders and his carnival? Hard pass. He has less experience coaching at the pro level than Glenn. His novelty will be over soon.

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I’m with SmashMouth. Forget the “offensive minded guys” let’s go hard nosed, tough and disciplined route with Flores. He was just beginning to build something when Miami showed him the door for that whack job they have now. This guy had coached under BB and MT so should have learned a few things in those stints. Question is what type of offense was he running in Miami and who was his OC at the time?

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Loomis is going to run this team into the ground. That’s all I know.

1. Brian Flores
2. Marcus Freeman
3. Mike Vrabel
4. Aaron Glenn

The only reason Glenn has fallen down my list is because he’s willing to let Loomis keep his people around.

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There's been a picture of Gruden at the facility today with Carr, Haener and Moreau.

I swear, if Loomis hires that ball sack as our coach, I'll swap teams.

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I didn’t say Glenn should or should not be the guy, I’m just saying he can’t be labeled a has been, when all he’s ever been is an assistant. And I don’t think Sanders should be an option. Hell, what do I know? Not much, honestly.

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Aaron Glenn might be okay. But I really dislike the combination of Loomis and Glenn.

We need a coach that won't be Mickey's yes-man. The more time goes on, that becomes my #1 criteria for the new HC. Flores, Vrabel, even Chucky seem better in that regard.

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100% agree.

Mickey just wants anyone he can control.

Nothing will get better until we replace him as the GM

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Oh yeah, I’d be 100% fine with Deion. The position coaches and coordinators would be top of the line and the respect in the locker room would be second to none.

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He'd bring an attitude and swagger to the team.

He wouldn't be apologizing to division rivals lol

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Looks like the Pats are setting up for Vrabel to step in. They fired Mayo.

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The Patriots really don't want the Jets to get Vrabel!

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Bring in a HS coach.

1. Can not be worse than Allen.
2. A focus on fundamentals and discipline would be a fresh addition to this team.
3. Good luck finding tape on him/her.


I do not care as long as I can not guess the next play which has been since the 1/2 time kick of SB44.

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FWIW, Underhill stated the Saints are going to move slowly to hire the next coach in NO. He expects at least 10-12 people including college coaches they want to talk to.

Expect the search to be long and cast a wide net.

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I hope so! I'd like them to find the next Sean Payton or Jim Mora, minus hi OC of course. Both Vrabel and Gruden are both in the "Just Above .500" club.

The Saints and the FAN BASE deserve better than RETREAD coaches.

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Ben Johnson voter here.

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Pats have asked for permission to talk to Ben.

https://www.bostonherald.com/2025/01...c-ben-johnson/

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For real. Dude won the Super Bowl 23 years ago.

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For some reason when I read this I read "retread" as "retarded" :)

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OHhhhhhhh God No !!!1

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In the Pete Carrol sort of direction, if we wanted to hire a caretaker coach, which I think could make sense in a rebuild, another option could be Gary Kubiak. He is basically the same age as Sean Payton, but has had some bad luck in the past with health scares. I think he is the type of leader who could preserve a winning culture even if we have 1-2 seasons where it is unlikely to actually win a lot due to a rebuild. I think we would be better off with Kubiak that Rizzi in most respects, and I dont think Kubiak would insist on a long term deal.

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FYI ...

Saints completed an interview with Aaron Glenn today

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Would love to see them hire Glenn, but it's very possible he gets a better offer.