Turning Attention to the Draft

turbo_dog · 02-14-2025, 08:34 AM

Later rounds

WR Jayden Higgens Iowa State
6' 3" 217
87 receptions, 1183 yards in 2024

https://youtu.be/5cQ1xcp8uu0?si=oQk5AqvTQWL47vIC

K Major · 02-14-2025, 01:30 PM

Colston Loveland - TE
Michigan

POSITIVES
— Plus-level athlete for his size, good post-catch burst and acceleration.
— Outstanding catch radius to attack the ball at its highest point.
— Good route runner from a multiple alignments.
— Vertical speed to threaten the seam off play-action.

NEGATIVES
— Working on maintaining proper leverage and pad-level in the run game.
— Continuing to mature and grow into his body, adding muscle to his frame.

Early Day 2 grades

SmashMouth · 02-14-2025, 01:44 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

Colston Loveland - TE
Michigan

POSITIVES
— Plus-level athlete for his size, good post-catch burst and acceleration.
— Outstanding catch radius to attack the ball at its highest point.
— Good route runner from a multiple alignments.
— Vertical speed to threaten the seam off play-action.

NEGATIVES
— Working on maintaining proper leverage and pad-level in the run game.
— Continuing to mature and grow into his body, adding muscle to his frame.

Early Day 2 grades

So neaux former basketball players we can take three years to mold?

zbeaster · 02-14-2025, 02:04 PM

Any top choice at 9?

voodooido · 02-15-2025, 11:30 AM

Originally Posted by zbeaster

Any top choice at 9?

Green from Marshall is moving up the boards quickly. Dude is a killer. He destroyed all OT he faced before the Senior bowl. He had 17 sacks last year. He may just be the best DE in the draft. If Carter is gone, I would scoop him up.

Crusader · 02-16-2025, 02:00 AM

Originally Posted by Danno

We should probably target one of those DT's in the 2nd round.

I wouldn't mind at all if we got a young DE at #9 and a DT in the second round. Start the youth movement on that side of the ball.

spkb25 · 02-16-2025, 06:34 AM

The game is won and lost up front. That has always been true and it will never change. In my opinion, you don't draft for need. You draft the best possible player available.

turbo_dog · 02-16-2025, 10:23 AM

Originally Posted by voodooido

Green from Marshall is moving up the boards quickly. Dude is a killer. He destroyed all OT he faced before the Senior bowl. He had 17 sacks last year. He may just be the best DE in the draft. If Carter is gone, I would scoop him up.

Sounds just like Marcus Davenport.

BakoSaint · 02-16-2025, 10:28 AM

I am fine with drafting in the trenches but if you have missed on a lot of picks at oline and dline in the first round its important to fire the people who missed on those picks and be willing to bench the players they picked. You cant build if you dont fire failures.

K Major · 02-16-2025, 10:59 AM

But you still have Mickey Loomis and Jeff Ireland ..

Saints traded Ceedy, handed Philly Jalen Carter (draft for Penning pick) & let All Pro Zach Baun leave N.O.

The "strategy" of selecting players based on measurables "prototype", and not whether they can actually play football, is also part of the problem.

Gotta get that cap in order and HIT on those draft picks. Saints need a lot of young, new talent to truly compete.

02-14-2025, 08:34 AM	#51
turbo_dog 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Atlanta Posts: 1,635	Re: Turning Attention to the Draft Later rounds WR Jayden Higgens Iowa State 6' 3" 217 87 receptions, 1183 yards in 2024 https://youtu.be/5cQ1xcp8uu0?si=oQk5AqvTQWL47vIC neugey likes this.

02-14-2025, 01:30 PM	#52
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,735 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Turning Attention to the Draft Colston Loveland - TE Michigan POSITIVES — Plus-level athlete for his size, good post-catch burst and acceleration. — Outstanding catch radius to attack the ball at its highest point. — Good route runner from a multiple alignments. — Vertical speed to threaten the seam off play-action. NEGATIVES — Working on maintaining proper leverage and pad-level in the run game. — Continuing to mature and grow into his body, adding muscle to his frame. Early Day 2 grades

02-14-2025, 01:44 PM	#53
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,472 Blog Entries: 29	Re: Turning Attention to the Draft Originally Posted by K Major Colston Loveland - TE Michigan POSITIVES — Plus-level athlete for his size, good post-catch burst and acceleration. — Outstanding catch radius to attack the ball at its highest point. — Good route runner from a multiple alignments. — Vertical speed to threaten the seam off play-action. NEGATIVES — Working on maintaining proper leverage and pad-level in the run game. — Continuing to mature and grow into his body, adding muscle to his frame. Early Day 2 grades So neaux former basketball players we can take three years to mold? K Major likes this.
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voodooido 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 2,819	Re: Turning Attention to the Draft Originally Posted by zbeaster Any top choice at 9? Green from Marshall is moving up the boards quickly. Dude is a killer. He destroyed all OT he faced before the Senior bowl. He had 17 sacks last year. He may just be the best DE in the draft. If Carter is gone, I would scoop him up.
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02-16-2025, 02:00 AM	#56
Crusader Resident Swede Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Märsta, Sweden Posts: 8,030	Re: Turning Attention to the Draft Originally Posted by Danno We should probably target one of those DT's in the 2nd round. I wouldn't mind at all if we got a young DE at #9 and a DT in the second round. Start the youth movement on that side of the ball. Danno likes this.

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spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,115	Re: Turning Attention to the Draft The game is won and lost up front. That has always been true and it will never change. In my opinion, you don't draft for need. You draft the best possible player available. Danno, SmashMouth and Rugby Saint II like this.

02-16-2025, 10:23 AM	#58
turbo_dog 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Atlanta Posts: 1,635	Re: Turning Attention to the Draft Originally Posted by voodooido Green from Marshall is moving up the boards quickly. Dude is a killer. He destroyed all OT he faced before the Senior bowl. He had 17 sacks last year. He may just be the best DE in the draft. If Carter is gone, I would scoop him up. Sounds just like Marcus Davenport.

02-16-2025, 10:28 AM	#59
BakoSaint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Dec 2018 Posts: 2,303	Re: Turning Attention to the Draft I am fine with drafting in the trenches but if you have missed on a lot of picks at oline and dline in the first round its important to fire the people who missed on those picks and be willing to bench the players they picked. You cant build if you dont fire failures. Rugby Saint II likes this.
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K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,735 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Turning Attention to the Draft But you still have Mickey Loomis and Jeff Ireland .. Saints traded Ceedy, handed Philly Jalen Carter (draft for Penning pick) & let All Pro Zach Baun leave N.O. The "strategy" of selecting players based on measurables "prototype", and not whether they can actually play football, is also part of the problem. Gotta get that cap in order and HIT on those draft picks. Saints need a lot of young, new talent to truly compete. turbo_dog, Rugby Saint II and BakoSaint like this.