Turning Attention to the Draft

SmashMouth · 04-16-2025, 03:47 PM

Originally Posted by rezburna

I like Rattler a lot. I really do. His arm talent is elite. He's matured so much over the years. I believe he'll be a starter in this league.

On the other hands...for all of those that miss the Drew Brees era...Sanders is going to be the closest thing to that. Not to mention the NFL is going to want him to succeed. It's good for the league and the bottom line.

If Sanders is off the board before 9 then I'm fine letting Rattler play out the season.

If it means the refs and RG cut us a break all the way to the SB for another Tiffany, then Hell Ya, let's all board the Shedeur Sanders train.

Mr.Riaton · 04-16-2025, 03:52 PM

I believe Rattler has more to offer than people think. He only had a few games with second and third string oline and receiver and flashed some nice moments. He needs to be given a fair shot and put in some practices and a few games with the ones to really see what we have.

K Major · 04-16-2025, 04:19 PM

Jalon Walker - LB
Georgia

Strengths
- Hybrid talent who takes snaps as an off-ball linebacker and on the edge.
- Drifts downhill to meet blocks and constrict the run lane.
- Good length to stack blocks or punch and pass on the move.
- Twitched up with an elite closing burst to the football.
- Rush attack is highly athletic and very natural.
- Varies step cadence and entry angles, creating passivity from tackles.

Weaknesses
- Below-average size as a full-time edge defender.
- Improved off the ball but still developing his instincts.

Pro comparison - Nolan Smith

1st round projections throughout

turbo_dog · 04-16-2025, 09:07 PM

I'm also high on the Rattler train. After all, he didn't play with the varsity squad last season. Still looked like a higher upside than Carr.

If the Saints take Sanders at 9, I'm ok. If they take someone later, cool. But like Rez said earlier, I don't think it should be Shough. I'm ok with Dart, Milroe, Howard, Riley in later rounds. Haven't really watched any of the guy from Syracuse

K Major · 04-17-2025, 11:05 AM

Azareye’h Thomas - CB
Florida State

Strengths
- Imposing size and length as a press corner.
- Stalls receiver’s release with a strong punch.
- Crowds and connects to the early stages of the route.
- Takes cues from receivers to turn, locate and play the throw.
- Seeks to occupy as much of the catch space as possible.
- Long arms are formidable weapons of catch disruption.

Round 2 projection

leilung · 04-17-2025, 12:16 PM

I'm still anxious to get a top OL, preferably a LT so that we can get our stud, Fuaga back to his natural position on the RT! I really do believe that the quest for the next QB can wait, but without a line to give him thime, he's not going to be doing much except running for his life on most plays...

That being said: Sanders has had some of the most horrible lines in College Football since he's been playing. He could probably come in and do well right away with what we have.

AsylumGuido · 04-17-2025, 01:30 PM

Speaking of the draft, today I heard a pretty amazing bit of draft history. This year's first round, as it sits right now, is the first time since 1967 that every team in the league holds its own first round pick.

SmashMouth · 04-17-2025, 01:52 PM

Originally Posted by leilung

I'm still anxious to get a top OL, preferably a LT so that we can get our stud, Fuaga back to his natural position on the RT! I really do believe that the quest for the next QB can wait, but without a line to give him thime, he's not going to be doing much except running for his life on most plays...

That being said: Sanders has had some of the most horrible lines in College Football since he's been playing. He could probably come in and do well right away with what we have.

Easily forgotten is the speed difference in the NFL vs college. That's means he'll be a turnstile interception machine, in all likelihood.

K Major · 04-17-2025, 02:08 PM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

Easily forgotten is the speed difference in the NFL vs college. That's means he'll be a turnstile interception machine, in all likelihood.

Didn’t the scouts say that about Phills Simms & Favre coming out of college?

BakoSaint · 04-17-2025, 02:16 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Speaking of the draft, today I heard a pretty amazing bit of draft history. This year's first round, as it sits right now, is the first time since 1967 that every team in the league holds its own first round pick.

Interesting, I saw that somewhere too. Its a copycat league and I think the recent bust trades to move up for Trey Lance and Bryce Young among others discouraged other teams from trading up so much lately, making this possible. Ultimately I think most mega-deals have been busts (sometimes moving up a few spots at lesser compensation has worked out better) but these two trades going so bad so quickly at such a large scale of compensation really hit the nail in the coffin. At the same time trades of 1st round picks for elite veteran QBs have not gone so well lately either, with Russell Wilson and Aaron Rodgers being complete busts, and the Matthew Stafford being a bit murky since LA got the ring but then Goff became the better QB year 2 on. Trading 1st round picks may remain a cautionary tale until some team makes it work, more likely trading for a veteran given the challenges of a rookie handling the pressure of those expectations.

04-16-2025, 03:47 PM	#271
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,550 Blog Entries: 29	Re: Turning Attention to the Draft Originally Posted by rezburna I like Rattler a lot. I really do. His arm talent is elite. He's matured so much over the years. I believe he'll be a starter in this league. On the other hands...for all of those that miss the Drew Brees era...Sanders is going to be the closest thing to that. Not to mention the NFL is going to want him to succeed. It's good for the league and the bottom line. If Sanders is off the board before 9 then I'm fine letting Rattler play out the season. If it means the refs and RG cut us a break all the way to the SB for another Tiffany, then Hell Ya, let's all board the Shedeur Sanders train.

04-16-2025, 03:52 PM	#272
Mr.Riaton 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Broussard,La. Posts: 1,308	Re: Turning Attention to the Draft I believe Rattler has more to offer than people think. He only had a few games with second and third string oline and receiver and flashed some nice moments. He needs to be given a fair shot and put in some practices and a few games with the ones to really see what we have. jnormand and leilung like this.

04-16-2025, 04:19 PM	#273
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,797 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Turning Attention to the Draft Jalon Walker - LB Georgia Strengths - Hybrid talent who takes snaps as an off-ball linebacker and on the edge. - Drifts downhill to meet blocks and constrict the run lane. - Good length to stack blocks or punch and pass on the move. - Twitched up with an elite closing burst to the football. - Rush attack is highly athletic and very natural. - Varies step cadence and entry angles, creating passivity from tackles. Weaknesses - Below-average size as a full-time edge defender. - Improved off the ball but still developing his instincts. Pro comparison - Nolan Smith 1st round projections throughout

04-16-2025, 09:07 PM	#274
turbo_dog 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Atlanta Posts: 1,649	Re: Turning Attention to the Draft I'm also high on the Rattler train. After all, he didn't play with the varsity squad last season. Still looked like a higher upside than Carr. If the Saints take Sanders at 9, I'm ok. If they take someone later, cool. But like Rez said earlier, I don't think it should be Shough. I'm ok with Dart, Milroe, Howard, Riley in later rounds. Haven't really watched any of the guy from Syracuse

04-17-2025, 11:05 AM	#275
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,797 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Turning Attention to the Draft Azareye’h Thomas - CB Florida State Strengths - Imposing size and length as a press corner. - Stalls receiver’s release with a strong punch. - Crowds and connects to the early stages of the route. - Takes cues from receivers to turn, locate and play the throw. - Seeks to occupy as much of the catch space as possible. - Long arms are formidable weapons of catch disruption. Round 2 projection

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04-17-2025, 12:16 PM	#276
leilung Booty Bandit Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: The Wastelands that are NJ Posts: 1,421	Re: Turning Attention to the Draft I'm still anxious to get a top OL, preferably a LT so that we can get our stud, Fuaga back to his natural position on the RT! I really do believe that the quest for the next QB can wait, but without a line to give him thime, he's not going to be doing much except running for his life on most plays... That being said: Sanders has had some of the most horrible lines in College Football since he's been playing. He could probably come in and do well right away with what we have.

04-17-2025, 01:30 PM	#277
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,573	Re: Turning Attention to the Draft Speaking of the draft, today I heard a pretty amazing bit of draft history. This year's first round, as it sits right now, is the first time since 1967 that every team in the league holds its own first round pick.

04-17-2025, 01:52 PM	#278
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,550 Blog Entries: 29	Re: Turning Attention to the Draft Originally Posted by leilung I'm still anxious to get a top OL, preferably a LT so that we can get our stud, Fuaga back to his natural position on the RT! I really do believe that the quest for the next QB can wait, but without a line to give him thime, he's not going to be doing much except running for his life on most plays... That being said: Sanders has had some of the most horrible lines in College Football since he's been playing. He could probably come in and do well right away with what we have. Easily forgotten is the speed difference in the NFL vs college. That's means he'll be a turnstile interception machine, in all likelihood. WW_Who_Dat likes this.

04-17-2025, 02:08 PM	#279
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,797 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Turning Attention to the Draft Originally Posted by SmashMouth Easily forgotten is the speed difference in the NFL vs college. That's means he'll be a turnstile interception machine, in all likelihood. Didn’t the scouts say that about Phills Simms & Favre coming out of college? AsylumGuido and rezburna like this.

04-17-2025, 02:16 PM	#280
BakoSaint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Dec 2018 Posts: 2,347	Re: Turning Attention to the Draft Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Speaking of the draft, today I heard a pretty amazing bit of draft history. This year's first round, as it sits right now, is the first time since 1967 that every team in the league holds its own first round pick. Interesting, I saw that somewhere too. Its a copycat league and I think the recent bust trades to move up for Trey Lance and Bryce Young among others discouraged other teams from trading up so much lately, making this possible. Ultimately I think most mega-deals have been busts (sometimes moving up a few spots at lesser compensation has worked out better) but these two trades going so bad so quickly at such a large scale of compensation really hit the nail in the coffin. At the same time trades of 1st round picks for elite veteran QBs have not gone so well lately either, with Russell Wilson and Aaron Rodgers being complete busts, and the Matthew Stafford being a bit murky since LA got the ring but then Goff became the better QB year 2 on. Trading 1st round picks may remain a cautionary tale until some team makes it work, more likely trading for a veteran given the challenges of a rookie handling the pressure of those expectations.
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