Spencer Rattler vs Derek Carr - The Facts

saintsfan1976 · 02-21-2025, 11:08 AM

Ultimately I think Carr gets restructured, the money get spread over 5 years and he's the starter on a short leash. Bye bye in 2026.

BakoSaint · 02-21-2025, 02:45 PM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

Ultimately I think Carr gets restructured, the money get spread over 5 years and he's the starter on a short leash. Bye bye in 2026.

But have you seen the dead money number in 2026 if we do that? We’ll be saying the same thing in 2026,2027, and so on until we have a 40yo playoff virgin with $150 million dead but a bargain $90 million to keep and restructure.

Basically dead money to cut Carr in 2026 if he is restructured is $60 million. There is also always risk that if Carr was seriously injured late in the season he could fail to pass a physical and be unable to be cut, adding another $50 million for a hurt QB in 2026.

SmashMouth · 02-21-2025, 04:02 PM

Originally Posted by BakoSaint

But have you seen the dead money number in 2026 if we do that? We’ll be saying the same thing in 2026,2027, and so on until we have a 40yo playoff virgin with $150 million dead but a bargain $90 million to keep and restructure.

Basically dead money to cut Carr in 2026 if he is restructured is $60 million. There is also always risk that if Carr was seriously injured late in the season he could fail to pass a physical and be unable to be cut, adding another $50 million for a hurt QB in 2026.

Hence why in all likelihood, he'll be traded (with his approval of course with the no trade clause) to a team willing to take on some of the cap. There'll be some sort of June 1 cap implication. I guess we'll all see.

K Major · 02-21-2025, 04:43 PM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

Hence why in all likelihood, he'll be traded (with his approval of course with the no trade clause) to a team willing to take on some of the cap. There'll be some sort of June 1 cap implication. I guess we'll all see.

I don’t see any team that will trade for Carr for the same reason the Saints didn’t trade for him a couple of seasons ago.

Any interested team will just wait for him to get cut.

AsylumGuido · 02-21-2025, 05:11 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

I don’t see any team that will trade for Carr for the same reason the Saints didn’t trade for him a couple of seasons ago.

Any interested team will just wait for him to get cut.

Just saw this after I posted. That is definitely a factor, as well. Either retained or cut. A trade doesn't make sense for two of the three parties involved.

AsylumGuido · 02-21-2025, 05:08 PM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

Hence why in all likelihood, he'll be traded (with his approval of course with the no trade clause) to a team willing to take on some of the cap. There'll be some sort of June 1 cap implication. I guess we'll all see.

He was in the same position with the Raiders and didn't approve talk of a trade and had to be released. I serious doubt he'd change his stance now.

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BakoSaint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Dec 2018 Posts: 2,400	Re: Spencer Rattler vs Derek Carr - The Facts Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 Ultimately I think Carr gets restructured, the money get spread over 5 years and he's the starter on a short leash. Bye bye in 2026. But have you seen the dead money number in 2026 if we do that? We’ll be saying the same thing in 2026,2027, and so on until we have a 40yo playoff virgin with $150 million dead but a bargain $90 million to keep and restructure. Basically dead money to cut Carr in 2026 if he is restructured is $60 million. There is also always risk that if Carr was seriously injured late in the season he could fail to pass a physical and be unable to be cut, adding another $50 million for a hurt QB in 2026. SmashMouth likes this.
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SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,916 Blog Entries: 29	Re: Spencer Rattler vs Derek Carr - The Facts Originally Posted by BakoSaint But have you seen the dead money number in 2026 if we do that? We’ll be saying the same thing in 2026,2027, and so on until we have a 40yo playoff virgin with $150 million dead but a bargain $90 million to keep and restructure. Basically dead money to cut Carr in 2026 if he is restructured is $60 million. There is also always risk that if Carr was seriously injured late in the season he could fail to pass a physical and be unable to be cut, adding another $50 million for a hurt QB in 2026. Hence why in all likelihood, he'll be traded (with his approval of course with the no trade clause) to a team willing to take on some of the cap. There'll be some sort of June 1 cap implication. I guess we'll all see.

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K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,838 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Spencer Rattler vs Derek Carr - The Facts Originally Posted by SmashMouth Hence why in all likelihood, he'll be traded (with his approval of course with the no trade clause) to a team willing to take on some of the cap. There'll be some sort of June 1 cap implication. I guess we'll all see. I don’t see any team that will trade for Carr for the same reason the Saints didn’t trade for him a couple of seasons ago. Any interested team will just wait for him to get cut. AsylumGuido and WW_Who_Dat like this.

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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,671	Re: Spencer Rattler vs Derek Carr - The Facts Originally Posted by K Major I don’t see any team that will trade for Carr for the same reason the Saints didn’t trade for him a couple of seasons ago. Any interested team will just wait for him to get cut. Just saw this after I posted. That is definitely a factor, as well. Either retained or cut. A trade doesn't make sense for two of the three parties involved.

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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,671	Re: Spencer Rattler vs Derek Carr - The Facts Originally Posted by SmashMouth Hence why in all likelihood, he'll be traded (with his approval of course with the no trade clause) to a team willing to take on some of the cap. There'll be some sort of June 1 cap implication. I guess we'll all see. He was in the same position with the Raiders and didn't approve talk of a trade and had to be released. I serious doubt he'd change his stance now.