If true this is absolutely disgusting

neugey · 02-03-2025, 04:28 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

They really didn't sit on much. Most of this was shared years ago. But the timing was definitely planned for hoped impact. From everything I'm seeing out there this "story" is well down the list of national interest surrounding the game.

Kind of by accident, since all the NBA trade deadline news is taking precedent. Being a Lakers fan as well as a Saints fan, I feel like I half-forgot the Saints still need a coach after the Luka trade bombshell this weekend!!!

I share the angst of others though. If there's enough there to prove without bias that the Saints brass were involved in the damage control of the abusers, heads should roll.

AsylumGuido · 02-03-2025, 04:29 PM

Originally Posted by neugey

That's good to know. There may be more bias here than we should see from supposedly-objective investigative reporting.

Still, if there's an email trail ... it might get interesting. We saw how quickly Gruden was dealt with.

It ticks me off when press people sit on stories for so long. There are real survivors out there that deserve the truth, not a publicity stunt.

Believe me when I say that the present day media and press is absolutely biased. Things have evolved, or should I say dissolved, a great deal since the 70's and 80's when I was part of the "Fourth Estate". It is no longer reporting the news. It is now creating and selling.

bobdog86 · 02-03-2025, 04:45 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Believe me when I say that the present day media and press is absolutely biased. Things have evolved, or should I say dissolved, a great deal since the 70's and 80's when I was part of the "Fourth Estate". It is no longer reporting the news. It is now creating and selling.

Sad, but very, very true.

AsylumGuido · 02-03-2025, 04:47 PM

The NFL has been aware of all of this since at least 2019. Here's what Goodell had to say when asked about it today.

A little more here.

AsylumGuido · 02-03-2025, 04:58 PM

Here's Goodell's full response on video. Here he points out that they've been aware of the issue since notified by Gayle back in 2018.

neugey · 02-03-2025, 05:32 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Believe me when I say that the present day media and press is absolutely biased. Things have evolved, or should I say dissolved, a great deal since the 70's and 80's when I was part of the "Fourth Estate". It is no longer reporting the news. It is now creating and selling.

I worked for the newspaper in Omaha in the 2000's on their core web tech. The staff seemed like a mix of proper journalists, solid writers and pond scum. The upper management was fixated on ad revenue though. It was one of the few that stayed independent for quite some time and didn't get swallowed by Gannett. I probably got a kinder and gentler view of the industry than what was out there.

saintsfan1976 · 02-03-2025, 08:14 PM

If true, I can't support the organization under it's current ownership and management.

voodooido · 02-04-2025, 09:34 AM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

If true, I can't support the organization under it's current ownership and management.

You and I both brother.

leilung · 02-04-2025, 11:15 AM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Mostly old news that's being rehashed to take advantage of the visibility available to maximize clicks and the related ad revenues. Note the byline on the story. It's not credited to any individual reports and simply carries a generic Associated Press byline. Not condoning anything that the Saints did or didn't do, but this is opportunistic grandstanding, pure and simple.

I've been a long time fan and this is the first I've heard of it. So while it may have taken place 7+ years ago, old news to some is brand new news to others.

However dubious the timing of this rehash of history, this is horrific. To poo poo is away is nothing short of abominable.

AsylumGuido · 02-04-2025, 12:34 PM

Originally Posted by leilung

I've been a long time fan and this is the first I've heard of it. So while it may have taken place 7+ years ago, old news to some is brand new news to others.

However dubious the timing of this rehash of history, this is horrific. To poo poo is away is nothing short of abominable.

There was a big thread on this very subject right here in the forum back in 2020. I remember it was right before the pandemic. What those individual priests did was horrendous and they all deserve to be punished.

Okay, I found the thread. This is a response from the Saints, posted in that thread, not so coincidentally a couple of weeks prior to the Super Bowl in 2020:

Statement from the New Orleans Saints

While there is current litigation relative to the New Orleans Archdiocese and clergy sex abuse, our comments are limited only to the scope of our involvement. The New Orleans Saints organization has always had a very strong relationship with the Archdiocese. The Archdiocese reached out to a number of community and civic minded leaders seeking counsel on handling the pending media attention that would come with the release of the clergy names in November of 2018. Greg Bensel, Senior Vice President of Communications for the New Orleans Saints, was contacted and offered input on how to work with the media. The advice was simple and never wavering. Be direct, open and fully transparent, while making sure that all law enforcement agencies were alerted. The New Orleans Saints, Greg Bensel and Mrs. Gayle Benson were and remain offended, disappointed and repulsed by the actions of certain past clergy. We remain steadfast in support of the victims who have suffered and pray for their continued healing.

Further, the Saints have no interest in concealing information from the press or public. At the current discovery stage in the case of Doe v. Archdiocese, the Saints, through their counsel, have merely requested the court to apply the normal rules of civil discovery to the documents that the Saints produced and delivered to Mr. Doe's counsel. Until the documents are admitted into evidence at a public trial or hearing in the context of relevant testimony by persons having knowledge of the documents and the events to which they pertain, the use of the documents should be limited to the parties to the case and their attorneys. If admitted into evidence of the case, the documents and the testimony pertaining to them will become part of the public record of the trial of the case.

02-03-2025, 04:28 PM	#21
neugey Hu Dat! Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 6,785 Blog Entries: 13	Re: If true this is absolutely disgusting Originally Posted by AsylumGuido They really didn't sit on much. Most of this was shared years ago. But the timing was definitely planned for hoped impact. From everything I'm seeing out there this "story" is well down the list of national interest surrounding the game. Kind of by accident, since all the NBA trade deadline news is taking precedent. Being a Lakers fan as well as a Saints fan, I feel like I half-forgot the Saints still need a coach after the Luka trade bombshell this weekend!!! I share the angst of others though. If there's enough there to prove without bias that the Saints brass were involved in the damage control of the abusers, heads should roll.

02-03-2025, 04:29 PM	#22
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,307	Re: If true this is absolutely disgusting Originally Posted by neugey That's good to know. There may be more bias here than we should see from supposedly-objective investigative reporting. Still, if there's an email trail ... it might get interesting. We saw how quickly Gruden was dealt with. It ticks me off when press people sit on stories for so long. There are real survivors out there that deserve the truth, not a publicity stunt. Believe me when I say that the present day media and press is absolutely biased. Things have evolved, or should I say dissolved, a great deal since the 70's and 80's when I was part of the "Fourth Estate". It is no longer reporting the news. It is now creating and selling. turbo_dog and neugey like this.

02-03-2025, 04:45 PM	#23
bobdog86 Site Donor Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Washington State Posts: 1,480	Re: If true this is absolutely disgusting Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Believe me when I say that the present day media and press is absolutely biased. Things have evolved, or should I say dissolved, a great deal since the 70's and 80's when I was part of the "Fourth Estate". It is no longer reporting the news. It is now creating and selling. Sad, but very, very true.

02-03-2025, 04:47 PM	#24
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,307	Re: If true this is absolutely disgusting The NFL has been aware of all of this since at least 2019. Here's what Goodell had to say when asked about it today. Twitter A little more here. Twitter

02-03-2025, 04:58 PM	#25
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,307	Re: If true this is absolutely disgusting Here's Goodell's full response on video. Here he points out that they've been aware of the issue since notified by Gayle back in 2018. Twitter

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neugey Hu Dat! Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 6,785 Blog Entries: 13	Re: If true this is absolutely disgusting Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Believe me when I say that the present day media and press is absolutely biased. Things have evolved, or should I say dissolved, a great deal since the 70's and 80's when I was part of the "Fourth Estate". It is no longer reporting the news. It is now creating and selling. I worked for the newspaper in Omaha in the 2000's on their core web tech. The staff seemed like a mix of proper journalists, solid writers and pond scum. The upper management was fixated on ad revenue though. It was one of the few that stayed independent for quite some time and didn't get swallowed by Gannett. I probably got a kinder and gentler view of the industry than what was out there. AsylumGuido likes this.

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02-04-2025, 09:34 AM	#28
voodooido 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 2,795	Re: If true this is absolutely disgusting Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 If true, I can't support the organization under it's current ownership and management. You and I both brother.
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02-04-2025, 11:15 AM	#29
leilung Booty Bandit Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: The Wastelands that are NJ Posts: 1,409	Re: If true this is absolutely disgusting Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Mostly old news that's being rehashed to take advantage of the visibility available to maximize clicks and the related ad revenues. Note the byline on the story. It's not credited to any individual reports and simply carries a generic Associated Press byline. Not condoning anything that the Saints did or didn't do, but this is opportunistic grandstanding, pure and simple. I've been a long time fan and this is the first I've heard of it. So while it may have taken place 7+ years ago, old news to some is brand new news to others. However dubious the timing of this rehash of history, this is horrific. To poo poo is away is nothing short of abominable. saintsfan1976 likes this.

02-04-2025, 12:34 PM	#30
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,307	Re: If true this is absolutely disgusting Originally Posted by leilung I've been a long time fan and this is the first I've heard of it. So while it may have taken place 7+ years ago, old news to some is brand new news to others. However dubious the timing of this rehash of history, this is horrific. To poo poo is away is nothing short of abominable. There was a big thread on this very subject right here in the forum back in 2020. I remember it was right before the pandemic. What those individual priests did was horrendous and they all deserve to be punished. Okay, I found the thread. This is a response from the Saints, posted in that thread, not so coincidentally a couple of weeks prior to the Super Bowl in 2020: Statement from the New Orleans Saints While there is current litigation relative to the New Orleans Archdiocese and clergy sex abuse, our comments are limited only to the scope of our involvement. The New Orleans Saints organization has always had a very strong relationship with the Archdiocese. The Archdiocese reached out to a number of community and civic minded leaders seeking counsel on handling the pending media attention that would come with the release of the clergy names in November of 2018. Greg Bensel, Senior Vice President of Communications for the New Orleans Saints, was contacted and offered input on how to work with the media. The advice was simple and never wavering. Be direct, open and fully transparent, while making sure that all law enforcement agencies were alerted. The New Orleans Saints, Greg Bensel and Mrs. Gayle Benson were and remain offended, disappointed and repulsed by the actions of certain past clergy. We remain steadfast in support of the victims who have suffered and pray for their continued healing. Further, the Saints have no interest in concealing information from the press or public. At the current discovery stage in the case of Doe v. Archdiocese, the Saints, through their counsel, have merely requested the court to apply the normal rules of civil discovery to the documents that the Saints produced and delivered to Mr. Doe's counsel. Until the documents are admitted into evidence at a public trial or hearing in the context of relevant testimony by persons having knowledge of the documents and the events to which they pertain, the use of the documents should be limited to the parties to the case and their attorneys. If admitted into evidence of the case, the documents and the testimony pertaining to them will become part of the public record of the trial of the case.
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