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Saints 2025 Off-Season Roster Moves

this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Depth signing at best. Neither Shaheed or Olave will play a full season. Cooks hasn’t been good for 2 seasons & will be 32 in Sept. This is a nothingburger. Going from Scantling to Cooks is a more expensive downgrade....

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Old 03-22-2025, 09:44 AM   #1
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Depth signing at best. Neither Shaheed or Olave will play a full season.

Cooks hasn’t been good for 2 seasons & will be 32 in Sept.
This is a nothingburger.

Going from Scantling to Cooks is a more expensive downgrade.
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Old 03-22-2025, 08:14 PM   #2
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Depth signing at best. Neither Shaheed or Olave will play a full season.

Cooks hasn’t been good for 2 seasons & will be 32 in Sept.
This is a nothingburger.

Going from Scantling to Cooks is a more expensive downgrade.
I agree that its a more expensive downgrade. They are blowing $13 million this geezer. Ridiculous.

Mickey Loomis should be arrested and prosecuted on reasonable suspicion of embezzling and elder fraud. The only explanation for these contracts is that he is taking kickbacks.
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Old 03-24-2025, 08:31 AM   #3
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I agree that its a more expensive downgrade. They are blowing $13 million this geezer. Ridiculous.

Mickey Loomis should be arrested and prosecuted on reasonable suspicion of embezzling and elder fraud. The only explanation for these contracts is that he is taking kickbacks.
Essentially the same contract as MVS who played Shaheed's role when he went down. We don't nee him. We signed a veteran WR who has familiarity with Kellen.
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Essentially the same contract as MVS who played Shaheed's role when he went down. We don't nee him. We signed a veteran WR who has familiarity with Kellen.
We signed a veteran WR who has familiarity with George Halas and Bear Bryant.
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We signed a veteran WR who has familiarity with George Halas and Bear Bryant.
Good. I like players that are interested in the history of the game. By the way, Cooks was born ten years after (1993) both Halas and Bryant both died in 1983.
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Old 03-23-2025, 07:23 AM   #7
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Depth signing at best. Neither Shaheed or Olave will play a full season.

Cooks hasn’t been good for 2 seasons & will be 32 in Sept.
This is a nothingburger.

Going from Scantling to Cooks is a more expensive downgrade.
Disagree brother.

While we can debate whether Cooks or MVS is "better", their contracts are similar and MVS is 2 years younger, the edge goes to Cooks' experience with our new coaching staff.

No he won't be the #1 (or #2) WR but don't forget the guy is knocking on 10,000 career yards and 60+ TDs. He's still a very talented WR who may be the best "depth" WR on any roster.

Regarding recent performance, I just want to remind everyone who his QBs over the last few seasons have been:

'21 Tyrod Taylor, Davis Mills (90 rec, 1,037yds, 6 td)

'22 Davis Mills, Kyle Allen (57 rec, 699yds, 3 td)

'23 Dak Prescott (54 receptions, 657 yards, and 8 touchdowns while playing 16 games​). Notably, the 8 receiving TDs were a bright spot – just one shy of his career high – but his receptions and yards were his lowest in any full season since his rookie year. Dallas used Cooks more sparingly than Houston did; he averaged just over 3 catches and 41 yards per game.

'24 Dak (IR in Nov), Cooper Rush (10 games played, 26 rec, 259yds, 3 td)

So what did we get? A washed up nobody, or an invaluable depth piece who can, with stable QB play, step up when (not if) our other WRs miss extended time?

IMO, Cooks’ statistical downturn was multi-factorial. The most significant causes were the changing team contexts: quarterback instability, conservative play-calling in Houston, and reduced target share in Dallas. The “decline” is better viewed as a product of circumstance rather than a drastic drop in Cooks’ talent. He remained the same player, but the opportunities and environment around him shifted unfavorably for big numbers.

I'll bet you Kellen Moore sees BC more as the 2021 version than MVS could ever be.
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Old 03-23-2025, 01:01 PM   #8
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Disagree brother.

While we can debate whether Cooks or MVS is "better", their contracts are similar and MVS is 2 years younger, the edge goes to Cooks' experience with our new coaching staff.

No he won't be the #1 (or #2) WR but don't forget the guy is knocking on 10,000 career yards and 60+ TDs. He's still a very talented WR who may be the best "depth" WR on any roster.

Regarding recent performance, I just want to remind everyone who his QBs over the last few seasons have been:

'21 Tyrod Taylor, Davis Mills (90 rec, 1,037yds, 6 td)

'22 Davis Mills, Kyle Allen (57 rec, 699yds, 3 td)

'23 Dak Prescott (54 receptions, 657 yards, and 8 touchdowns while playing 16 games​). Notably, the 8 receiving TDs were a bright spot – just one shy of his career high – but his receptions and yards were his lowest in any full season since his rookie year. Dallas used Cooks more sparingly than Houston did; he averaged just over 3 catches and 41 yards per game.

'24 Dak (IR in Nov), Cooper Rush (10 games played, 26 rec, 259yds, 3 td)

So what did we get? A washed up nobody, or an invaluable depth piece who can, with stable QB play, step up when (not if) our other WRs miss extended time?

IMO, Cooks’ statistical downturn was multi-factorial. The most significant causes were the changing team contexts: quarterback instability, conservative play-calling in Houston, and reduced target share in Dallas. The “decline” is better viewed as a product of circumstance rather than a drastic drop in Cooks’ talent. He remained the same player, but the opportunities and environment around him shifted unfavorably for big numbers.

I'll bet you Kellen Moore sees BC more as the 2021 version than MVS could ever be.
More context to this signing in this video;

https://youtu.be/SGEp0csxHb8?si=2q7U3QojG1kCWKuh
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