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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 Once Carr's contract is restructured there could be enough money to attract the right FAs. Loomis stated publicly they'd be more active in FA this season. But you can never take what he says to be ...

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Old 03-01-2025, 07:59 AM   #31
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Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 View Post
Once Carr's contract is restructured there could be enough money to attract the right FAs. Loomis stated publicly they'd be more active in FA this season. But you can never take what he says to be true so who knows what he actually means by "active".

Bottom line, the right players are more important than number of players.

Like I said before Mekhi Becton at LG would solidify the line. That's our biggest expense but worth it - ask Kellen...
I like your ideas 76. The only thing I’m concerned about in your post is Carr’s restructure. Most of us agree that he’s probably going to be cut after this season (or should be). I’d like to see a restructure that won’t tie our hands financially for years to come after he’s been cut next year. To me, more money available this season at the cost of being obligated monetarily next season and beyond isn’t worth it. Idk if it can be done or not.
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Old 03-01-2025, 08:42 AM   #32
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I like your ideas 76. The only thing I’m concerned about in your post is Carr’s restructure. Most of us agree that he’s probably going to be cut after this season (or should be). I’d like to see a restructure that won’t tie our hands financially for years to come after he’s been cut next year. To me, more money available this season at the cost of being obligated monetarily next season and beyond isn’t worth it. Idk if it can be done or not.
The money's going to be on our books one way or the other. With the cap exploding every year they way it is that same money takes up a smaller percentage of the total cap in future years.
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Old 03-01-2025, 11:12 AM   #33
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I like your ideas 76. The only thing I’m concerned about in your post is Carr’s restructure. Most of us agree that he’s probably going to be cut after this season (or should be). I’d like to see a restructure that won’t tie our hands financially for years to come after he’s been cut next year. To me, more money available this season at the cost of being obligated monetarily next season and beyond isn’t worth it. Idk if it can be done or not.
After the restructure, the dead cap to cut Carr in the 2026 offseason will be $51 million. Then the narrative will be that we cannot cut Carr in 2026 because the dead cap hit is too high and 2027 will be our out. So instead we will come up with an extension to magically geniusly get us under the 2026 cap, that will make the dead cap hit to cut Carr in 2027 at least $60 million. This was Mickey Loomis's plan all along. He likes that streak of mascara where he buckles his belt.
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Old 03-01-2025, 11:56 AM   #34
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The money's going to be on our books one way or the other. With the cap exploding every year they way it is that same money takes up a smaller percentage of the total cap in future years.
I just don’t like or want that. That’s like maxing out a high interest credit card to pay off your mortgage over several years when you have the money to do it now. Then using the excuse that your credit limit will PROBABLY go up next year. This all so you can avoid having to buckle down and take care of it because you want to buy some things that you don’t need right now. It’s stupid and irresponsible.

Robbing Peter to pay Paul is why our cap is in the mess it is. I get that he needs to play under his contract this year. But I’d prefer we do it and get rid of him next year and eat the dead money. Not kick it down the road and pay for it for years when he’s not on the team. I’d rather the team use that money for someone that will help the team and actually be on the roster.
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Old 03-01-2025, 04:45 PM   #35
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Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 View Post
Once Carr's contract is restructured there could be enough money to attract the right FAs. Loomis stated publicly they'd be more active in FA this season. But you can never take what he says to be true so who knows what he actually means by "active".

Bottom line, the right players are more important than number of players.

Like I said before Mekhi Becton at LG would solidify the line. That's our biggest expense but worth it - ask Kellen...

Noah Brown (worked with Moore in Dallas) 35 receptions, 453 yards, 86.4 passer rating when targeted, offers dependable hands and depth at a bargain price. He’s worked with Moore in Dallas (2018-2022), ensuring scheme familiarity. At 29, he’s a low-risk, high-reward No. 3 receiver behind Olave and Shaheed.

Dalton Risner could be a budget move...a 29-year-old guard from the Vikings, excels as a run-blocker and offers solid pass protection (66.7 PFF grade in 2024). Moore’s offense leans on a strong interior line to protect Carr and open lanes for Alvin Kamara. Risner’s durability (15+ starts in four of six seasons) addresses the left guard hole.

Alim McNeill a 24-year-old Lions standout, is a rising star on the interior (5 sacks, 33 tackles in 2024). Staley’s 3-4 scheme thrived with Aaron Donald in 2020; McNeill’s disruptiveness (80.2 PFF run defense grade) can anchor the Saints’ front, plugging their run defense woes alongside Bryan Bresee.

Ernest Jones, a 25-year-old former Ram traded to the Titans then Seahawks in 2024, is a tackling machine (138 tackles across two teams in 2024) with improving coverage chops (80.3 PFF grade). Staley coached him in LA (2021-2023), making him a plug-and-play fit for the Saints’ 3-4. His run-stopping (46 stops) would pair with McNeill’s interior presence to fix the Saints’ 31st-ranked rush defense, while his youth signals a post-Davis future.

Nick Bolton, (my favorite) a 24-year-old Chiefs star (106 tackles, 3 sacks, 11 TFLs in 2024), is the full package—aggressive downhill against the run (83.2 PFF run defense grade) and adequate in coverage (89.4 passer rating allowed). He’s been a three-year starter on a dynasty defense, logging 40 postseason tackles in 2024 alone. For Staley, Bolton’s a dream: a tone-setter akin to Fred Warner, capable of masking secondary weaknesses and leading the Saints’ front seven. He’d transform their defense alongside McNeill.
I appreciate your thorough explanation and thought 76. I understand we can always get under the cap to make things happen in free agency to an extent, and we can build a decent roster that way, but it always seems like our teams are thin.
Also by continuing to keep restructuring contracts it keeps us constantly in the hole and keeps us with players longer than we should. If we were succeeding with this formula I’d be fine, but we’re not. Our 5-12 record shows that.
I really just want a young competitive team with good depth and it seems like this is not the proper way to go about it. I haven’t seen anything indicative of that.
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Old 03-01-2025, 08:46 PM   #36
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Are you going to do this on repeat again all year?
Are THE SAINTS going to “do this on repeat AGAIN” another year? There’s your answer.
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Are THE SAINTS going to “do this on repeat AGAIN” another year? There’s your answer.
This is obviously a rebuild year for the Saints so it will be tough to watch. Spending the whole time mewling the same broken record BS makes no difference to the organization and many of us are beyond tired of the same "there will be pain" posts ad nauseam.
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Old 03-01-2025, 10:24 PM   #38
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This is obviously a rebuild year for the Saints so it will be tough to watch. Spending the whole time mewling the same broken record BS makes no difference to the organization and many of us are beyond tired of the same "there will be pain" posts ad nauseam.
You’re tired? Then why even jump onto my thread?
Start your own “Kumbaya” thread and enjoy yet another “rebuild” year with the same old (1 year older and richer) Raider Curbside Trash at the helm.
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Originally Posted by iceshack149 View Post
This is obviously a rebuild year for the Saints so it will be tough to watch. Spending the whole time mewling the same broken record BS makes no difference to the organization and many of us are beyond tired of the same "there will be pain" posts ad nauseam.
I actually blocked him and unblocked Guido. Lol.
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Old 03-02-2025, 05:20 AM   #40
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Originally Posted by jnormand View Post
I like your ideas 76. The only thing I’m concerned about in your post is Carr’s restructure. Most of us agree that he’s probably going to be cut after this season (or should be). I’d like to see a restructure that won’t tie our hands financially for years to come after he’s been cut next year. To me, more money available this season at the cost of being obligated monetarily next season and beyond isn’t worth it. Idk if it can be done or not.
"worth it" sailed out of port a long time ago... For some context here's a list of players on our books in 2025. My only point is that this may be more common than you think.

Name Cap Number
Marshon Lattimore $31,661,837
Michael Thomas $9,187,177
Jameis Winston $7,361,000
TOTAL $48,432,346
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