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AsylumGuido 03-16-2025 06:36 AM
Re: The 2025 JeanPierre Saints Roster Depth Chart Thread
 
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Originally Posted by neugey (Post 1008487)
The weird logjam at DT/DE is the one that has me concerned. It is weird that Cam, Saunders, and Shepherd are all back. Yes Kpassagnon and Payton Turner are gone but we also added Godchaux. Doesn't seem like there is much room for DT/DE draftees.
Plenty of room for draftees. We aren't but half way to the 90 man roster. Here was our defensive roster last August with 15 DT's and DE's:

LDE96Granderson, Carl CF1998Turner, Payton 21/155Foskey, Isaiah 23/276Jeffcoat, Trajan CF24  
LDT50Saunders, Khalen U/KC97Boyd, Khristian 24/695Heflin, Jack SF2369Baugh, Kyler CF24  
RDT93SHEPHERD, NATHAN U/NYJ90Bresee, Bryan 23/191Vickers, Kendal SF24    
RDE94JORDAN, CAMERON 11/199Young, Chase U/SF92KPASSAGNON, TANOH PUP57Lalos, Niko SF22  
WLB20Werner, Pete 21/245Sewell, Nephi PUP52Jackson, D'Marco 22/544Stalbird, Isaiah CF24  
MLB56DAVIS, DEMARIO U/NYJ53Ford, Jaylan 24/558Orji, Anfernee CF23    
SLB6Gay, Willie U/KC47Hudson, Khaleke U/Was59Rice, Monty W/Ten    
LCB29Adebo, Paulson 21/328Wright, Rejzohn SF2427Jean-Charles, Shemar SF2342McCain, Mac SF24  
SS32MATHIEU, TYRANN U/KC24Abram, Johnathan U/Sea30Teamer, Roderic SF2437Johnson, Lawrence CF24  
FS31Howden, Jordan 23/548Gray, J.T. CF1838Bradford, Millard CF24    
RCB23Lattimore, Marshon 17/134McKinstry, Kool-Aid 24/236Payton, Rico CF24    
NB1Taylor, Alontae 22/25Harris, Will U/Det0Amadi, Ugo SF23    

BakoSaint 03-16-2025 10:27 AM
Re: The 2025 JeanPierre Saints Roster Depth Chart Thread
 
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 1008494)
Plenty of room for draftees. We aren't but half way to the 90 man roster. Here was our defensive roster last August with 15 DT's and DE's:
I get that we need 90 players for camp bodies but the problem is do we cut a player who have guaranteed money due to restructure or guaranteed contract and eat at least several million dead cap or cut players who cost recent draft assets?

Guaranteed money: Granderson, Young, Jordan, Godchaux, Shepherd, Saunders.

Cost recent draft picks: Breese, Godchaux (trade, also has guaranteed salary), Rideway (trade), Boyd.

Thats 9 players it would be hard to cut. Granderson and Young are the only ones clearly above average on PFF. I guess we could cut Rideway or Boy because they only cost late picks but it seems oike we should have let guys like Jordan, Shepherd, and Saunders compete in camp without guaranteeing their salaries through restructure advances and definitely not before the draft where we could find out if someone with more upside falls to us. In particular we seem to have a logjam at interior dline.

bobdog86 03-16-2025 01:27 PM
Re: The 2025 JeanPierre Saints Roster Depth Chart Thread
 
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Originally Posted by BakoSaint (Post 1008493)
Linebacker depth seems like a major concern. Demario Davis is 36 and in the very unlikely scenario that we make the playoffs he would be 37 which also might be our points allowed. Pete Werner has missed a few games every year and had not been consistent. Chase Young and Cam Jordan might be playing linebacker even if we stick with a 4-3. Seems like if we wanted to win we would need more linebacker depth but I am happy for Loomis to plan on Davis and Werner playing 17 amazing games each, because when that doesnt happen it will take its toll on his regime.
Agreed, this defense couldn’t tackle a pop warner RB, what did we do to improve that? Aside from the dude from the Pats, doesn’t seem like we improved too much.

K Major 03-16-2025 01:55 PM
Re: The 2025 JeanPierre Saints Roster Depth Chart Thread
 
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Originally Posted by bobdog86 (Post 1008499)
Agreed, this defense couldn’t tackle a pop warner RB, what did we do to improve that? Aside from the dude from the Pats, doesn’t seem like we improved too much.
Safety Justin Reid is a serious upgrade (Harris) at the safety position.

Strong in coverage and run support.

Rugby Saint II 03-16-2025 05:22 PM
Re: The 2025 JeanPierre Saints Roster Depth Chart Thread
 
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Originally Posted by bobdog86 (Post 1008499)
Agreed, this defense couldn’t tackle a pop warner RB, what did we do to improve that? Aside from the dude from the Pats, doesn’t seem like we improved too much.
They need to bring in a rugby player to teach them how to tackle.:biggun:

rezburna 03-16-2025 06:52 PM
Re: The 2025 JeanPierre Saints Roster Depth Chart Thread
 
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Originally Posted by neugey (Post 1008473)
It's weird to look at a 4-3 depth chart knowing that we'll likely switch to 3-4 soon.
I think we'd benefit from the a switch to 3-4. It calls for better athletes on the EDGE and makes it easier to play Granderson, Young, Jordan, and Bresee at the same time. Cam is better suited as a 3-4 DE instead of an EDGE at this stage of his career and I think the change would benefit his current skillset.

dizzle88 03-16-2025 06:56 PM
Re: The 2025 JeanPierre Saints Roster Depth Chart Thread
 
I still think we are missing some serious speed on defense.

Teams gashed us on outside runs and we've effectively done nothing to upgrade that weakness.

Like it or not, Demario has been playing pretty badly for 2 and a half years now.

I don't know why they kept Werner instead of Kaden Elliss or Baun.

This defense is so old and they seem resistant to trying to reset it.

bobdog86 03-17-2025 09:27 AM
Re: The 2025 JeanPierre Saints Roster Depth Chart Thread
 
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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 1008500)
Safety Justin Reid is a serious upgrade (Harris) at the safety position.

Strong in coverage and run support.
Well, he better be good in run support, he will have plenty of of opportunities to showcase his talent.

AsylumGuido 03-17-2025 12:58 PM
Re: The 2025 JeanPierre Saints Roster Depth Chart Thread
 
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Originally Posted by bobdog86 (Post 1008506)
Well, he better be good in run support, he will have plenty of of opportunities to showcase his talent.
Honestly none of us know what will be needed once the final roster is in place. We still have more pre-draft free agency, the draft itself, and then post-draft free agency left. We also have a whole new staff of coaches and implementing what could very well be a radically different defensive scheme from what we have been seeing. Making judgements at this point is fairly meaningless.

As saintsfan1976 posted in another thread, "Relax y'all. See what happens before you condemn every decision."

Sound advice.

:bng:

BakoSaint 03-17-2025 12:59 PM
Re: The 2025 JeanPierre Saints Roster Depth Chart Thread
 
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 1008514)
Honestly none of us know what will be needed once the final roster is in place. We still have more pre-draft free agency, the draft itself, and then post-draft free agency left. We also have a whole new staff of coaches and implementing what could very well be a radically different defensive scheme from what we have been seeing. Making judgements at this point is fairly meaningless.

As saintsfan1976 posted in another thread, "Relax y'all. See what happens before you condemn every decision."

Sound advice.

:bng:
I know what will be needed. A new General Manager.


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