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AsylumGuido 03-15-2025 10:29 AM

The 2025 JeanPierre Saints Roster Depth Chart Thread
 
The 2025 depth chart.

Updated Ourlads Depth Chart as of 4:18 PM, March 14th, 2025.


OFFENSE


LWR12Olave, Chris 22/116Means, Bub 24/584Tipton, Mason CF24    
RWR81Austin Jr., Kevin SF2417Pettis, Dante SF24      
SWR22Shaheed, Rashid CF2211Wilson Jr., Cedrick U/Mia      
LT75Fuaga, Taliese 24/179Ball, Josh P/Dal      
LG64Saldiveri, Nick 23/460Hergel, Kyle CF24      
C78McCoy, Erik 19/2 Clapp, Will 18/7      
RG51Ruiz, Cesar 20/1        
RT70Penning, Trevor 22/172Ezirim, Josiah 24/7      
TE87Moreau, Foster U/LV83Johnson, Juwan CF207HILL, TAYSOM W/GB85Holker, Dallin CF24 Stoll, Jack U/Mia
TE      86Jacobson, Michael SF2382Welch, Treyton SF24
QB4CARR, DEREK CC/LV18Rattler, Spencer 24/53Haener, Jake 23/415DiNucci, Ben SF24  
RB41Kamara, Alvin 17/325Miller, Kendre 23/333Mims, Jordan SF2323Edwards-Helaire, Clyde SF2434Valladay, Xazavian SF24

DEFENSE Base 4-3

DE96Granderson, Carl CF1955Foskey, Isaiah 23/2 Williams, Jonah U/Det    
NT GODCHAUX, DAVON T/NE50Saunders, Khalen U/KC97Boyd, Khristian 24/6    
DT90Bresee, Bryan 23/193SHEPHERD, NATHAN U/NYJ95Ridgeway III, John T/Was57Anderson, Ryder SF24  
RDE94JORDAN, CAMERON 11/199Young, Chase U/SF76Peterson, Camron SF24    
WLB20Werner, Pete 21/245Sewell, Nephi CF2253Ford, Jaylan 24/5    
MLB56DAVIS, DEMARIO U/NYJ52Jackson, D'Marco 22/558Orji, Anfernee CF2344Stalbird, Isaiah CF24  
LCB Yiadom, Isaac U/SF36Payton, Rico CF24      
SS Reid, Justin U/KC31Howden, Jordan 23/5      
FS32MATHIEU, TYRANN U/KC48Gray, J.T. CF1838Bradford, Millard CF24    
RCB14McKinstry, Kool-Aid 24/228Wright, Rejzohn SF24      
NB1Taylor, Alontae 22/226Fluellen, Travion CF24      

SPECIAL TEAMS

PT43Hayball, Matthew CF24        
PK19Grupe, Blake CF2339Smyth, Charlie SF24      
LS49WOOD, ZACH SF17        
H43Hayball, Matthew CF24        
KO19Grupe, Blake CF2339Smyth, Charlie SF24      
PR22Shaheed, Rashid CF2217Pettis, Dante SF2411Wilson Jr., Cedrick U/Mia    
KR22Shaheed, Rashid CF2225Miller, Kendre 23/3      

Free Agents / Cap Casualties

CC21Williams, Jamaal RB        
UFA62PATRICK, LUCAS OG74Udoh, Olisaemeka OT66Lemieux, Shane OC77Herron, Justin OT67Young, Landon OT
UFA92KPASSAGNON, TANOH DT27Jean-Charles, Shemar CB6Gay Jr., Willie LB46Prentice, Adam FB0Amadi, Ugo S

neugey 03-15-2025 10:49 AM

Re: The 2025 JeanPierre Saints Roster Depth Chart Thread
 
It's weird to look at a 4-3 depth chart knowing that we'll likely switch to 3-4 soon.

AsylumGuido 03-15-2025 11:07 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by neugey (Post 1008473)
It's weird to look at a 4-3 depth chart knowing that we'll likely switch to 3-4 soon.

I'm not so sure we will be changing to a 3-4, at least not yet. Cam Jordan, who has already met with Staley, has mentioned four man front personnel more than once and I read somewhere that Staley plans to design the defense to the player's strengths. Currently we have more 4-3 personnel. If we don't pick up enough round pegs via free agency and the draft it might be judicious to go ahead and use the square holes for now.

Ourlads is usually pretty accurate.

Then again, Chase Young has said, "An edge is an edge", when asked about the possibility of the standing start.

iceshack149 03-15-2025 03:52 PM

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Seven tight ends is nutty. I know that you don’t want to hear this, Guido, but seeing seven TE’s on the roster makes me dislike the money given to an average to below average TE in Johnson even more than before.

BakoSaint 03-15-2025 04:31 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by iceshack149 (Post 1008478)
Seven tight ends is nutty. I know that you don’t want to hear this, Guido, but seeing seven TE’s on the roster makes me dislike the money given to an average to below average TE in Johnson even more than before.

So what you are saying is you would dislike Derek Carr even more if we had 7 QB's.

iceshack149 03-15-2025 05:03 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BakoSaint (Post 1008481)
So what you are saying is you would dislike Derek Carr even more if we had 7 QB's.

Yes.

AsylumGuido 03-15-2025 05:41 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by iceshack149 (Post 1008478)
Seven tight ends is nutty. I know that you don’t want to hear this, Guido, but seeing seven TE’s on the roster makes me dislike the money given to an average to below average TE in Johnson even more than before.

Three of the seven (Holker, Jacobson, Welch) are basically base salary only so if they don't make the final roster they don't count against the cap, ice. Free camp bodies. They may not even be on the "roster" in a few weeks. Don't forget the team has a 90 player offseason roster. Just stay tuned. Relax.

:bng:

neugey 03-15-2025 06:49 PM

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The weird logjam at DT/DE is the one that has me concerned. It is weird that Cam, Saunders, and Shepherd are all back. Yes Kpassagnon and Payton Turner are gone but we also added Godchaux. Doesn't seem like there is much room for DT/DE draftees.

iceshack149 03-16-2025 12:28 AM

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Originally Posted by BakoSaint (Post 1008481)
So what you are saying is you would dislike Derek Carr even more if we had 7 QB's.

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BakoSaint 03-16-2025 01:31 AM

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Linebacker depth seems like a major concern. Demario Davis is 36 and in the very unlikely scenario that we make the playoffs he would be 37 which also might be our points allowed. Pete Werner has missed a few games every year and had not been consistent. Chase Young and Cam Jordan might be playing linebacker even if we stick with a 4-3. Seems like if we wanted to win we would need more linebacker depth but I am happy for Loomis to plan on Davis and Werner playing 17 amazing games each, because when that doesnt happen it will take its toll on his regime.

AsylumGuido 03-16-2025 06:36 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by neugey (Post 1008487)
The weird logjam at DT/DE is the one that has me concerned. It is weird that Cam, Saunders, and Shepherd are all back. Yes Kpassagnon and Payton Turner are gone but we also added Godchaux. Doesn't seem like there is much room for DT/DE draftees.

Plenty of room for draftees. We aren't but half way to the 90 man roster. Here was our defensive roster last August with 15 DT's and DE's:

LDE96Granderson, Carl CF1998Turner, Payton 21/155Foskey, Isaiah 23/276Jeffcoat, Trajan CF24  
LDT50Saunders, Khalen U/KC97Boyd, Khristian 24/695Heflin, Jack SF2369Baugh, Kyler CF24  
RDT93SHEPHERD, NATHAN U/NYJ90Bresee, Bryan 23/191Vickers, Kendal SF24    
RDE94JORDAN, CAMERON 11/199Young, Chase U/SF92KPASSAGNON, TANOH PUP57Lalos, Niko SF22  
WLB20Werner, Pete 21/245Sewell, Nephi PUP52Jackson, D'Marco 22/544Stalbird, Isaiah CF24  
MLB56DAVIS, DEMARIO U/NYJ53Ford, Jaylan 24/558Orji, Anfernee CF23    
SLB6Gay, Willie U/KC47Hudson, Khaleke U/Was59Rice, Monty W/Ten    
LCB29Adebo, Paulson 21/328Wright, Rejzohn SF2427Jean-Charles, Shemar SF2342McCain, Mac SF24  
SS32MATHIEU, TYRANN U/KC24Abram, Johnathan U/Sea30Teamer, Roderic SF2437Johnson, Lawrence CF24  
FS31Howden, Jordan 23/548Gray, J.T. CF1838Bradford, Millard CF24    
RCB23Lattimore, Marshon 17/134McKinstry, Kool-Aid 24/236Payton, Rico CF24    
NB1Taylor, Alontae 22/25Harris, Will U/Det0Amadi, Ugo SF23    

BakoSaint 03-16-2025 10:27 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 1008494)
Plenty of room for draftees. We aren't but half way to the 90 man roster. Here was our defensive roster last August with 15 DT's and DE's:

I get that we need 90 players for camp bodies but the problem is do we cut a player who have guaranteed money due to restructure or guaranteed contract and eat at least several million dead cap or cut players who cost recent draft assets?

Guaranteed money: Granderson, Young, Jordan, Godchaux, Shepherd, Saunders.

Cost recent draft picks: Breese, Godchaux (trade, also has guaranteed salary), Rideway (trade), Boyd.

Thats 9 players it would be hard to cut. Granderson and Young are the only ones clearly above average on PFF. I guess we could cut Rideway or Boy because they only cost late picks but it seems oike we should have let guys like Jordan, Shepherd, and Saunders compete in camp without guaranteeing their salaries through restructure advances and definitely not before the draft where we could find out if someone with more upside falls to us. In particular we seem to have a logjam at interior dline.

bobdog86 03-16-2025 01:27 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BakoSaint (Post 1008493)
Linebacker depth seems like a major concern. Demario Davis is 36 and in the very unlikely scenario that we make the playoffs he would be 37 which also might be our points allowed. Pete Werner has missed a few games every year and had not been consistent. Chase Young and Cam Jordan might be playing linebacker even if we stick with a 4-3. Seems like if we wanted to win we would need more linebacker depth but I am happy for Loomis to plan on Davis and Werner playing 17 amazing games each, because when that doesnt happen it will take its toll on his regime.

Agreed, this defense couldn’t tackle a pop warner RB, what did we do to improve that? Aside from the dude from the Pats, doesn’t seem like we improved too much.

K Major 03-16-2025 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by bobdog86 (Post 1008499)
Agreed, this defense couldn’t tackle a pop warner RB, what did we do to improve that? Aside from the dude from the Pats, doesn’t seem like we improved too much.

Safety Justin Reid is a serious upgrade (Harris) at the safety position.

Strong in coverage and run support.

Rugby Saint II 03-16-2025 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by bobdog86 (Post 1008499)
Agreed, this defense couldn’t tackle a pop warner RB, what did we do to improve that? Aside from the dude from the Pats, doesn’t seem like we improved too much.

They need to bring in a rugby player to teach them how to tackle.:biggun:

rezburna 03-16-2025 06:52 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by neugey (Post 1008473)
It's weird to look at a 4-3 depth chart knowing that we'll likely switch to 3-4 soon.

I think we'd benefit from the a switch to 3-4. It calls for better athletes on the EDGE and makes it easier to play Granderson, Young, Jordan, and Bresee at the same time. Cam is better suited as a 3-4 DE instead of an EDGE at this stage of his career and I think the change would benefit his current skillset.

dizzle88 03-16-2025 06:56 PM

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I still think we are missing some serious speed on defense.

Teams gashed us on outside runs and we've effectively done nothing to upgrade that weakness.

Like it or not, Demario has been playing pretty badly for 2 and a half years now.

I don't know why they kept Werner instead of Kaden Elliss or Baun.

This defense is so old and they seem resistant to trying to reset it.

bobdog86 03-17-2025 09:27 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by K Major (Post 1008500)
Safety Justin Reid is a serious upgrade (Harris) at the safety position.

Strong in coverage and run support.

Well, he better be good in run support, he will have plenty of of opportunities to showcase his talent.

AsylumGuido 03-17-2025 12:58 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by bobdog86 (Post 1008506)
Well, he better be good in run support, he will have plenty of of opportunities to showcase his talent.

Honestly none of us know what will be needed once the final roster is in place. We still have more pre-draft free agency, the draft itself, and then post-draft free agency left. We also have a whole new staff of coaches and implementing what could very well be a radically different defensive scheme from what we have been seeing. Making judgements at this point is fairly meaningless.

As saintsfan1976 posted in another thread, "Relax y'all. See what happens before you condemn every decision."

Sound advice.

:bng:

BakoSaint 03-17-2025 12:59 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 1008514)
Honestly none of us know what will be needed once the final roster is in place. We still have more pre-draft free agency, the draft itself, and then post-draft free agency left. We also have a whole new staff of coaches and implementing what could very well be a radically different defensive scheme from what we have been seeing. Making judgements at this point is fairly meaningless.

As saintsfan1976 posted in another thread, "Relax y'all. See what happens before you condemn every decision."

Sound advice.

:bng:

I know what will be needed. A new General Manager.

AsylumGuido 03-17-2025 01:06 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BakoSaint (Post 1008515)
I know what will be needed. A new General Manager.

I expect no less, Bako. Ten years from now you'll be posting the exact same sentiment. ;)

BakoSaint 03-17-2025 01:13 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 1008518)
I expect no less, Bako. Ten years from now you'll be posting the exact same sentiment. ;)

If I am posting the same thing in 10 years, I will also be urging science to unlock the keys to eternal life obviously hidden in Mickey Loomis's liver cells.

AsylumGuido 03-17-2025 01:18 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BakoSaint (Post 1008519)
If I am posting the same thing in 10 years, I will also be urging science to unlock the keys to eternal life obviously hidden in Mickey Loomis's liver cells.

I have a feeling dying is the only way Loomis gets replaced. Either him or Gayle and she appears extremely fit.

AsylumGuido 03-17-2025 01:21 PM

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By the way, anyone interested in music please take a minute, actually three minutes, to check out the new single my son released this weekend, One Hit Wonder, in the Music forum here.

AsylumGuido 03-17-2025 01:32 PM

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Velus is in the house!

Updated Ourlads Depth Chart as of 1:20 PM, March 16th, 2025.


OFFENSE


LWR12Olave, Chris 22/116Means, Bub 24/584Tipton, Mason CF24    
RWR81Austin Jr., Kevin SF2417Pettis, Dante SF24      
SWR22Shaheed, Rashid CF2211Wilson Jr., Cedrick U/Mia Jones Jr., Velus U/Car    
LT75Fuaga, Taliese 24/179Ball, Josh P/Dal      
LG64Saldiveri, Nick 23/460Hergel, Kyle CF24      
C78McCoy, Erik 19/2 Clapp, Will 18/7      
RG51Ruiz, Cesar 20/1        
RT70Penning, Trevor 22/172Ezirim, Josiah 24/7      
TE87Moreau, Foster U/LV83Johnson, Juwan CF207HILL, TAYSOM W/GB85Holker, Dallin CF24 Stoll, Jack U/Mia
TE      86Jacobson, Michael SF2382Welch, Treyton SF24
QB4CARR, DEREK CC/LV18Rattler, Spencer 24/53Haener, Jake 23/415DiNucci, Ben SF24  
RB41Kamara, Alvin 17/325Miller, Kendre 23/333Mims, Jordan SF2323Edwards-Helaire, Clyde SF2434Valladay, Xazavian SF24

DEFENSE Base 4-3

LDE96Granderson, Carl CF1955Foskey, Isaiah 23/2 Williams, Jonah U/Det    
NT GODCHAUX, DAVON T/NE50Saunders, Khalen U/KC97Boyd, Khristian 24/676Peterson, Camron SF24  
DT90Bresee, Bryan 23/193SHEPHERD, NATHAN U/NYJ95Ridgeway III, John T/Was57Anderson, Ryder SF24  
RDE94JORDAN, CAMERON 11/199Young, Chase U/SF      
WLB20Werner, Pete 21/245Sewell, Nephi CF2253Ford, Jaylan 24/5    
MLB56DAVIS, DEMARIO U/NYJ52Jackson, D'Marco 22/558Orji, Anfernee CF2344Stalbird, Isaiah CF24  
LCB Yiadom, Isaac U/SF36Payton, Rico CF24      
SS Reid, Justin U/KC31Howden, Jordan 23/5      
FS32MATHIEU, TYRANN U/KC48Gray, J.T. CF1838Bradford, Millard CF24    
RCB14McKinstry, Kool-Aid 24/228Wright, Rejzohn SF24      
NB1Taylor, Alontae 22/226Fluellen, Travion CF24      

SPECIAL TEAMS

PT43Hayball, Matthew CF24        
PK19Grupe, Blake CF2339Smyth, Charlie SF24      
LS49WOOD, ZACH SF17        
H43Hayball, Matthew CF24        
KO19Grupe, Blake CF2339Smyth, Charlie SF24      
PR22Shaheed, Rashid CF2217Pettis, Dante SF2411Wilson Jr., Cedrick U/Mia    
KR22Shaheed, Rashid CF2225Miller, Kendre 23/3      

Free Agents / Cap Casualties

CC21Williams, Jamaal RB        
UFA62PATRICK, LUCAS OG74Udoh, Olisaemeka OT66Lemieux, Shane OC77Herron, Justin OT67Young, Landon OT
UFA92KPASSAGNON, TANOH DT27Jean-Charles, Shemar CB6Gay Jr., Willie LB46Prentice, Adam FB0Amadi, Ugo S

Sinner 03-17-2025 02:40 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 1008518)
I expect no less, Bako. Ten years from now you'll be posting the exact same sentiment. ;)

Ten years from now, we still won’t be in the playoffs.

AsylumGuido 03-18-2025 11:45 AM

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Thanks for the pin.

:chug:

K Major 03-19-2025 09:50 AM

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Saints still need an upgrade at LG.

AsylumGuido 03-19-2025 10:24 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by K Major (Post 1008545)
Saints still need an upgrade at LG.

Ideal spot to use the draft.

SmashMouth 03-19-2025 12:00 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by K Major (Post 1008545)
Saints still need an upgrade at LG.

Quote:

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 1008547)
Ideal spot to use the draft.

Hence my mocks with heavy emphasis on OL and DL beef in the early rounds.

rezburna 03-19-2025 12:05 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by K Major (Post 1008545)
Saints still need an upgrade at LG.

I'm not big on the RG either.

iceshack149 03-19-2025 04:50 PM

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Linebacker just became more thin with Gay going to the Dolphins.


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