The 2025 JeanPierre Saints Roster Depth Chart Thread

[AsylumGuido]

Originally Posted by neugey

The weird logjam at DT/DE is the one that has me concerned. It is weird that Cam, Saunders, and Shepherd are all back. Yes Kpassagnon and Payton Turner are gone but we also added Godchaux. Doesn't seem like there is much room for DT/DE draftees.

Plenty of room for draftees. We aren't but half way to the 90 man roster. Here was our defensive roster last August with 15 DT's and DE's:

LDE	96	Granderson, Carl CF19	98	Turner, Payton 21/1	55	Foskey, Isaiah 23/2	76	Jeffcoat, Trajan CF24
LDT	50	Saunders, Khalen U/KC	97	Boyd, Khristian 24/6	95	Heflin, Jack SF23	69	Baugh, Kyler CF24
RDT	93	SHEPHERD, NATHAN U/NYJ	90	Bresee, Bryan 23/1	91	Vickers, Kendal SF24
RDE	94	JORDAN, CAMERON 11/1	99	Young, Chase U/SF	92	KPASSAGNON, TANOH PUP	57	Lalos, Niko SF22
WLB	20	Werner, Pete 21/2	45	Sewell, Nephi PUP	52	Jackson, D'Marco 22/5	44	Stalbird, Isaiah CF24
MLB	56	DAVIS, DEMARIO U/NYJ	53	Ford, Jaylan 24/5	58	Orji, Anfernee CF23
SLB	6	Gay, Willie U/KC	47	Hudson, Khaleke U/Was	59	Rice, Monty W/Ten
LCB	29	Adebo, Paulson 21/3	28	Wright, Rejzohn SF24	27	Jean-Charles, Shemar SF23	42	McCain, Mac SF24
SS	32	MATHIEU, TYRANN U/KC	24	Abram, Johnathan U/Sea	30	Teamer, Roderic SF24	37	Johnson, Lawrence CF24
FS	31	Howden, Jordan 23/5	48	Gray, J.T. CF18	38	Bradford, Millard CF24
RCB	23	Lattimore, Marshon 17/1	34	McKinstry, Kool-Aid 24/2	36	Payton, Rico CF24
NB	1	Taylor, Alontae 22/2	5	Harris, Will U/Det	0	Amadi, Ugo SF23

[BakoSaint]

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Plenty of room for draftees. We aren't but half way to the 90 man roster. Here was our defensive roster last August with 15 DT's and DE's:

I get that we need 90 players for camp bodies but the problem is do we cut a player who have guaranteed money due to restructure or guaranteed contract and eat at least several million dead cap or cut players who cost recent draft assets?

Guaranteed money: Granderson, Young, Jordan, Godchaux, Shepherd, Saunders.

Cost recent draft picks: Breese, Godchaux (trade, also has guaranteed salary), Rideway (trade), Boyd.

Thats 9 players it would be hard to cut. Granderson and Young are the only ones clearly above average on PFF. I guess we could cut Rideway or Boy because they only cost late picks but it seems oike we should have let guys like Jordan, Shepherd, and Saunders compete in camp without guaranteeing their salaries through restructure advances and definitely not before the draft where we could find out if someone with more upside falls to us. In particular we seem to have a logjam at interior dline.

[bobdog86]

Originally Posted by BakoSaint

Linebacker depth seems like a major concern. Demario Davis is 36 and in the very unlikely scenario that we make the playoffs he would be 37 which also might be our points allowed. Pete Werner has missed a few games every year and had not been consistent. Chase Young and Cam Jordan might be playing linebacker even if we stick with a 4-3. Seems like if we wanted to win we would need more linebacker depth but I am happy for Loomis to plan on Davis and Werner playing 17 amazing games each, because when that doesnt happen it will take its toll on his regime.

Agreed, this defense couldn’t tackle a pop warner RB, what did we do to improve that? Aside from the dude from the Pats, doesn’t seem like we improved too much.

[K Major]

Originally Posted by bobdog86

Agreed, this defense couldn’t tackle a pop warner RB, what did we do to improve that? Aside from the dude from the Pats, doesn’t seem like we improved too much.

Safety Justin Reid is a serious upgrade (Harris) at the safety position.

Strong in coverage and run support.

[Rugby Saint II]

Originally Posted by bobdog86

Agreed, this defense couldn’t tackle a pop warner RB, what did we do to improve that? Aside from the dude from the Pats, doesn’t seem like we improved too much.

They need to bring in a rugby player to teach them how to tackle.

[rezburna]

Originally Posted by neugey

It's weird to look at a 4-3 depth chart knowing that we'll likely switch to 3-4 soon.

I think we'd benefit from the a switch to 3-4. It calls for better athletes on the EDGE and makes it easier to play Granderson, Young, Jordan, and Bresee at the same time. Cam is better suited as a 3-4 DE instead of an EDGE at this stage of his career and I think the change would benefit his current skillset.

[dizzle88]

I still think we are missing some serious speed on defense.

Teams gashed us on outside runs and we've effectively done nothing to upgrade that weakness.

Like it or not, Demario has been playing pretty badly for 2 and a half years now.

I don't know why they kept Werner instead of Kaden Elliss or Baun.

This defense is so old and they seem resistant to trying to reset it.

[bobdog86]

Originally Posted by K Major

Safety Justin Reid is a serious upgrade (Harris) at the safety position.

Strong in coverage and run support.

Well, he better be good in run support, he will have plenty of of opportunities to showcase his talent.

[AsylumGuido]

Originally Posted by bobdog86

Well, he better be good in run support, he will have plenty of of opportunities to showcase his talent.

Honestly none of us know what will be needed once the final roster is in place. We still have more pre-draft free agency, the draft itself, and then post-draft free agency left. We also have a whole new staff of coaches and implementing what could very well be a radically different defensive scheme from what we have been seeing. Making judgements at this point is fairly meaningless.

As saintsfan1976 posted in another thread, "Relax y'all. See what happens before you condemn every decision."

Sound advice.

[BakoSaint]

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Honestly none of us know what will be needed once the final roster is in place. We still have more pre-draft free agency, the draft itself, and then post-draft free agency left. We also have a whole new staff of coaches and implementing what could very well be a radically different defensive scheme from what we have been seeing. Making judgements at this point is fairly meaningless.

As saintsfan1976 posted in another thread, "Relax y'all. See what happens before you condemn every decision."

Sound advice.

I know what will be needed. A new General Manager.