AsylumGuido

Apparently the Saints were fully aware of this situation all along. At this point everything is still nothing more than speculation. Saying that "shoulder surgery" is only a "consideration" tells me it isn't major. Shoulder injuries are defined by a very wide spectrum. I heard the mention of a possible labral related injury from somewhere the last couple of days. That can be handled by a minor scope procedure or can even be played through.

BakoSaint

My problem with this is that you are trusting the same people who kept you completely in the dark with this to suddenly be fully transparent. Mickey Loomis has a long history of delaying and then understating injury news to soften the blow before revealing the full extent. You are just a PR pawn for him to manipulate by telling you whatever he thinks you can handle and not telling you whatever he thinks you can't handle to keep you on the hook for his next round of kool aid. Remember when there was cause to be optimistic about Ram's recovery? And MT? And when many other players missed more time than expected? And what about the Pelicans?

Given Mickey's history, it would be more reasonable to assume Carr is going to miss at least a major chunk of the season, probably all, or they wouldn't be softening the blow to prepare you for this. Now perhaps as some say the Saints didn't leak this, which means they are even more intent to keep you in the dark altogether. But I still think the Saints may have leaked it. If their intent is to soften the blow and then reveal the full extent later, leaking rather than announcing the injury allows them to more effectively soften the blow. If they announce it in a press conference, they immediately face followup questions where many details come out at once and the blow isn't softened. They can't explain announcing it without any details. If they leak it, they can have the bad news trickle out where we don't know which arm or what injury, then its apparently a labrum, but maybe there is cause for optimism, but maybe there isn't, and they can slow roll the bad news while acting pissed about the leak and refraining from comment.

Not only do I expect this injury is serious, given the Saints history I expect there are other serious injuries that are being hidden from us for now. For example McCoy is a major part of the offense and has missed a lot time, and I doubt the Saints would give us the full picture of any long term issues he has. Eventually that situation could play out as Ram 2.0. Also, I favor moving on from Taysom Hill, and I am encouraged at present that he has not been restructured, but for those who are invested in him don't be surprised if news on his injury recovery and contract status, or lack of recovery and cut, comes at a strategic time to soften the PR blow, not at an early time to allow you as a fan to objectively evaluate the Saints roster situation for the upcoming season. Probably it could make sense to announce the situation with Hill after the draft when fans are excited about a draft pick, but if Loomis needs a PR lift now that may not stop him from restructuring Hill now and writing off the $10 million loss later.