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[Rsanders24]

Originally Posted by lee909

You're complaining they took Shough with his injuries but you wanted Will Johnson who has refused to run a 40 because they feared he wouldn't out up good times. And is also dealing with a extensive lower body issues including a knee problem that may well be degenerative/arthritic

Will Johnson didn’t need to run. He was still the consensus 2nd rated CB but everyone knew he would slide due to injury. His tape showed that he was a very good CB.

Tyler was never a top QB in a poor draft for QBs. I would have rather taken a chance on a CB who I saw excel at his position against top WRs than a questionable QB with a much lower ceiling.

Tyler benefited from drama with Sanders and I hope that I’m wrong on him and that he becomes the next Tom Brady

[BakoSaint]

Yeah saying we have a few years to replace Carr is like saying Bruce Willis can only do a few more Die Hard movies.

[SmashMouth]

It's Kellen Moore's pick at the end of the day. What Slough's story? Super quick release ? Seattle won a SB with an older QB.

[BakoSaint]

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

It's Kellen Moore's pick at the end of the day. What Shough's story? Super quick release ? Seattle won a SB with an older QB.

I am skeptical that Moore is actually driving this. Before the hire Mickey Loomis stressed that the most important thing for the coaching hire was to be 'on the same page' as him. I feel like Moore's job is to say yes sir, absolutely sir, you sure are a genius Mr. Loomis sir.

Russel Wilson was 23 when drafted. Shough is 25 and will be 26 in September.

But as much as I am skeptical of this pick I do commend the team for not trading up, not trading future picks, and not drafting a reach, project, or injury prone player in the first round. Ultimately they took a shot in the 2nd round. Given the injury history and the lack of proven production due to the injury history, I doubt the pick works out, but at least its a cheap-ish shot with the size and athleticism that didnt cost a ton. Its not a worst case scenario. Probably he is Chris Weinke, but maybe there is a small shot he is Josh Allen, and taking that shot is not the worst thing we can do. Acting shocked if he does get injured down the line would be stupid though.

[TheOak]

Originally Posted by BakoSaint

I am skeptical that Moore is actually driving this. Before the hire Mickey Loomis stressed that the most important thing for the coaching hire was to be 'on the same page' as him. I feel like Moore's job is to say yes sir, absolutely sir, you sure are a genius Mr. Loomis sir.

‘Same page’ and ‘yes man’ are two different things. ‘Same page’ is same direction, common end goal and vision. ‘Yes man’ means their goal and direction are irrelevant.

Very different in this regard.

Think of that like asean Payton saying he needed to find a “good fit”. It’s standard BS lol

[papz]

No way Moore takes this job to be a “yes” man. This wasn’t his only opportunity and Loomis is a numbers guy. He gave Payton and Allen personnel power.


Kurt Warner was 28 when he became starter coming from the NFL. I’m not really concerned about his age.

[exiled]

I apologize someone has pointed this out earlier. I haven’t read the entire thread. I just wanted to chime in. This is the only time in my memory besides Archie Manning that we drafted a quarterback in the first or second round.

[BakoSaint]

Originally Posted by exiled

I apologize someone has pointed this out earlier. I haven’t read the entire thread. I just wanted to chime in. This is the only time in my memory besides Archie Manning that we drafted a quarterback in the first or second round.

I checked on this Archie Manning was our only 1st round QB pick. Dave Wilson was a supplemental 1st round pick, which is basically the same as 1st round pick, we gave up our 1st round pick the next year to be able to select him out of college a month or two after the draft. Steve Walsh was a recent supplemental 1st round pick we traded for. Tyler Shough is our first 2nd round QB pick.

Had the Saints not taken Wilson, they would have had the #3 overall pick in the 1982 draft and may have taken Jim McMahon, possibly resulting Mike Ditka either never winning a Super Bowl (if they took Todd Blackledge in 1983 instead, the top QB available at their 1st round pick that year) or winning many Super Bowls (if they took Jim Kelly in 1983, the next QB after Blackledge) and either way, Ditka never coming to the Saints either due to not being successful enough in Chicago or being too successful.

If you look at the Saints 1st round draft history, it is clear that two positions the organization values equally are Quarterback and Punter.

[neugey]

Hook em again!

[K Major]

Good pick.

Probably a Bo Davis endorsement.