Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 1009577)

Chris Simms was co-hosting Airing It Out on NFL Radio with Bob Papa this morning and he was most excited about Tyler Shough amongst all QB's. He said his age is not a negative at all. He said you have to be a "real grown man" to play in the NFL and Shough is a real grown man. He praised every aspect of his game and gave the indication that he is the most ready to play QB in the draft, an opinion that I have heard more than once elsewhere. He added that the coaching he got from Louisville's Jeff and Brian Brohm was top notch. Chris' father, Phil, is from Kentucky and the Simms family are apparently close friends with the Brohms so they know the scoop. He also said that Kellen Moore will be a perfect fit for Shough.

Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 1009566)

I don't think Rattler is going to get a fair shake now.

Originally Posted by The Dude (Post 1009580)

Our recipe for success seems to involve placing an injury-prone, average quarterback—who struggles under pressure and is hesitant to take hits—behind a terrible offensive line. This approach has worked so well over the past two years; it would be stupid not invest our early second-round pick in a younger version.

Originally Posted by The Dude (Post 1009581)

Why not? So far he's got the highest ceiling in my opinion.

Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 1009599)

Kellen Moore didn't draft him and was willing to spend the highest draft pick on a QB since Archie Manning. I suspect it's Shough's job to lose. They're not going to want to admit being wrong on this one. Plus Shough is 6'5" and Rattler is probably hovering around 6'1". It's politics involved.

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 (Post 1009600)

Kellen Moore had plenty of time to evaluate Rattler.

Doubt he'd spend a high pick on a QB who he doesn't view as a better player.

I see Haener as the odd man out while Rattler and Shough battle it out in camp.

Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 1009601)

I'm positive he believes Shough is the better player. I wouldn't necessarily agree, but I definitely feel like he believes that. That's why I doubt Rattler gets a real chance. He has to go absolutely bonkers in camp and during the preseason.

Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 1009599)

Kellen Moore didn't draft him and was willing to spend the highest draft pick on a QB since Archie Manning. I suspect it's Shough's job to lose. They're not going to want to admit being wrong on this one. Plus Shough is 6'5" and Rattler is probably hovering around 6'1". It's politics involved.

Originally Posted by hitta (Post 1009598)

Looks like Riddick is as high on him as I am. I think he's the best passer in the draft.

Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 1009599)

Kellen Moore didn't draft him and was willing to spend the highest draft pick on a QB since Archie Manning. I suspect it's Shough's job to lose. They're not going to want to admit being wrong on this one. Plus Shough is 6'5" and Rattler is probably hovering around 6'1". It's politics involved.

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 (Post 1009600)

Kellen Moore had plenty of time to evaluate Rattler.

Doubt he'd spend a high pick on a QB who he doesn't view as a better player.

I see Haener as the odd man out while Rattler and Shough battle it out in camp.

Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 1009601)

I'm positive he believes Shough is the better player. I wouldn't necessarily agree, but I definitely feel like he believes that. That's why I doubt Rattler gets a real chance. He has to go absolutely bonkers in camp and during the preseason.

Originally Posted by iceshack149 (Post 1009602)

The Saints offensive coaching staff is full of ex-Quarterbacks, including the Head Coach. I feel pretty confident they know what to look for in a QB. I also know that Moore is going to play the best guy at that position regardless of draft picks.

Originally Posted by subguy (Post 1009603)

To not admit wrong and bork your season because of that just doesn't make sense.

Originally Posted by iceshack149 (Post 1009602)

The Saints offensive coaching staff is full of ex-Quarterbacks, including the Head Coach. I feel pretty confident they know what to look for in a QB. I also know that Moore is going to play the best guy at that position regardless of draft picks.

Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 1009605)

Loomis fought hard to admit he was wrong about Dennis Allen and Derek Carr so it's not as though it's out of the ordinary behavior.

Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 1009601)

I'm positive he believes Shough is the better player. I wouldn't necessarily agree, but I definitely feel like he believes that. That's why I doubt Rattler gets a real chance. He has to go absolutely bonkers in camp and during the preseason.

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II (Post 1009630)

The more I read up and watch film I believe we may have gotten a steal in the second round.

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II (Post 1009630)

The more I read up and watch film I believe we may have gotten a steal in the second round.

Originally Posted by jnormand (Post 1009642)

I’m starting to feel the same. Pretty exciting stuff.

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II (Post 1009630)

The more I read up and watch film I believe we may have gotten a steal in the second round.

Originally Posted by spkb25 (Post 1009664)

Would advise anyone to watch Kurt warner observation of shough, cam, dart, and sanders. Great great videos

Originally Posted by turbo_dog (Post 1009650)

I hope you're right, but I don't see it. First step is for him to stay healthy, which is tough to be positive about when he has had two season ending injuries in college, along with missing games due to injury in other seasons.

insert Guido telling us that broken bones aren't anything to worry about<<<<