With the 40th pick in the Draft, the Saints select: Louisville QB Tyler Shough ⚜️

04-30-2025, 03:59 PM

Originally Posted by The Dude

Why not? So far he's got the highest ceiling in my opinion.

Kellen Moore didn't draft him and was willing to spend the highest draft pick on a QB since Archie Manning. I suspect it's Shough's job to lose. They're not going to want to admit being wrong on this one. Plus Shough is 6'5" and Rattler is probably hovering around 6'1". It's politics involved.

saintsfan1976 · 04-30-2025, 04:06 PM

Originally Posted by rezburna

Kellen Moore didn't draft him and was willing to spend the highest draft pick on a QB since Archie Manning. I suspect it's Shough's job to lose. They're not going to want to admit being wrong on this one. Plus Shough is 6'5" and Rattler is probably hovering around 6'1". It's politics involved.

Kellen Moore had plenty of time to evaluate Rattler.

Doubt he'd spend a high pick on a QB who he doesn't view as a better player.

I see Haener as the odd man out while Rattler and Shough battle it out in camp.

rezburna · 04-30-2025, 04:18 PM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

Kellen Moore had plenty of time to evaluate Rattler.

Doubt he'd spend a high pick on a QB who he doesn't view as a better player.

I see Haener as the odd man out while Rattler and Shough battle it out in camp.

I'm positive he believes Shough is the better player. I wouldn't necessarily agree, but I definitely feel like he believes that. That's why I doubt Rattler gets a real chance. He has to go absolutely bonkers in camp and during the preseason.

iceshack149 · 04-30-2025, 05:16 PM

Originally Posted by rezburna

I'm positive he believes Shough is the better player. I wouldn't necessarily agree, but I definitely feel like he believes that. That's why I doubt Rattler gets a real chance. He has to go absolutely bonkers in camp and during the preseason.

The Saints offensive coaching staff is full of ex-Quarterbacks, including the Head Coach. I feel pretty confident they know what to look for in a QB. I also know that Moore is going to play the best guy at that position regardless of draft picks.

subguy · 04-30-2025, 05:34 PM

Originally Posted by rezburna

Kellen Moore didn't draft him and was willing to spend the highest draft pick on a QB since Archie Manning. I suspect it's Shough's job to lose. They're not going to want to admit being wrong on this one. Plus Shough is 6'5" and Rattler is probably hovering around 6'1". It's politics involved.

To not admit wrong and bork your season because of that just doesn't make sense.

SmashMouth · 04-30-2025, 05:38 PM

Originally Posted by hitta

Looks like Riddick is as high on him as I am. I think he's the best passer in the draft.

Originally Posted by rezburna

Kellen Moore didn't draft him and was willing to spend the highest draft pick on a QB since Archie Manning. I suspect it's Shough's job to lose. They're not going to want to admit being wrong on this one. Plus Shough is 6'5" and Rattler is probably hovering around 6'1". It's politics involved.

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

Kellen Moore had plenty of time to evaluate Rattler.

Doubt he'd spend a high pick on a QB who he doesn't view as a better player.

I see Haener as the odd man out while Rattler and Shough battle it out in camp.

Originally Posted by rezburna

I'm positive he believes Shough is the better player. I wouldn't necessarily agree, but I definitely feel like he believes that. That's why I doubt Rattler gets a real chance. He has to go absolutely bonkers in camp and during the preseason.

Originally Posted by iceshack149

The Saints offensive coaching staff is full of ex-Quarterbacks, including the Head Coach. I feel pretty confident they know what to look for in a QB. I also know that Moore is going to play the best guy at that position regardless of draft picks.

3 ex-high-caliber-quarterbacks, I think. There's 5 inch different between the Bayou Rattler and Shuck-man. We'll see in the camps who wins. KM is likely hedging talent at the QB position. With the CarrFax situation being a total disaster... they don't even know when/if the injury occurred. He could have injured it moving to Fresno... nobody knows. We only know CarrFax is an embarrassment to himself and now the Saints. I look forward to the camps.

rezburna · 04-30-2025, 05:46 PM

Originally Posted by subguy

To not admit wrong and bork your season because of that just doesn't make sense.

Loomis fought hard to admit he was wrong about Dennis Allen and Derek Carr so it's not as though it's out of the ordinary behavior.

rezburna · 04-30-2025, 05:48 PM

Originally Posted by iceshack149

The Saints offensive coaching staff is full of ex-Quarterbacks, including the Head Coach. I feel pretty confident they know what to look for in a QB. I also know that Moore is going to play the best guy at that position regardless of draft picks.

One can hope.

AsylumGuido · 04-30-2025, 06:04 PM

I for one would like to see Shough get the job, but we must be prepared for something that will piss off many. Carr may very well be still in the picture as a starter. Moore is going to want the player that gives him the best shot to win this year.

Just throwing this out there until, or if, it is no longer an option.

SmashMouth · 04-30-2025, 07:47 PM

Originally Posted by rezburna

Loomis fought hard to admit he was wrong about Dennis Allen and Derek Carr so it's not as though it's out of the ordinary behavior.

Not so sure... I saw him downing his favorite drink or two at his bar on Metairie road. We likely won't really know until later.

04-30-2025, 03:59 PM	#51
Threaded by rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 8,086 Rating: (0 votes - average) Originally Posted by The Dude Why not? So far he's got the highest ceiling in my opinion. Kellen Moore didn't draft him and was willing to spend the highest draft pick on a QB since Archie Manning. I suspect it's Shough's job to lose. They're not going to want to admit being wrong on this one. Plus Shough is 6'5" and Rattler is probably hovering around 6'1". It's politics involved.
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04-30-2025, 04:06 PM	#52
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 11,011 Blog Entries: 3	Re: With the 40th pick in the Draft, the Saints select: Louisville QB Tyler Shough ⚜️ Originally Posted by rezburna Kellen Moore didn't draft him and was willing to spend the highest draft pick on a QB since Archie Manning. I suspect it's Shough's job to lose. They're not going to want to admit being wrong on this one. Plus Shough is 6'5" and Rattler is probably hovering around 6'1". It's politics involved. Kellen Moore had plenty of time to evaluate Rattler. Doubt he'd spend a high pick on a QB who he doesn't view as a better player. I see Haener as the odd man out while Rattler and Shough battle it out in camp.

04-30-2025, 04:18 PM	#53
rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 8,086	Re: With the 40th pick in the Draft, the Saints select: Louisville QB Tyler Shough ⚜️ Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 Kellen Moore had plenty of time to evaluate Rattler. Doubt he'd spend a high pick on a QB who he doesn't view as a better player. I see Haener as the odd man out while Rattler and Shough battle it out in camp. I'm positive he believes Shough is the better player. I wouldn't necessarily agree, but I definitely feel like he believes that. That's why I doubt Rattler gets a real chance. He has to go absolutely bonkers in camp and during the preseason.

04-30-2025, 05:16 PM	#54
iceshack149 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Fairbanks, AK Posts: 4,399 Blog Entries: 1	Re: With the 40th pick in the Draft, the Saints select: Louisville QB Tyler Shough ⚜️ Originally Posted by rezburna I'm positive he believes Shough is the better player. I wouldn't necessarily agree, but I definitely feel like he believes that. That's why I doubt Rattler gets a real chance. He has to go absolutely bonkers in camp and during the preseason. The Saints offensive coaching staff is full of ex-Quarterbacks, including the Head Coach. I feel pretty confident they know what to look for in a QB. I also know that Moore is going to play the best guy at that position regardless of draft picks.

04-30-2025, 05:34 PM	#55
subguy 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: FL Posts: 2,102	Re: With the 40th pick in the Draft, the Saints select: Louisville QB Tyler Shough ⚜️ Originally Posted by rezburna Kellen Moore didn't draft him and was willing to spend the highest draft pick on a QB since Archie Manning. I suspect it's Shough's job to lose. They're not going to want to admit being wrong on this one. Plus Shough is 6'5" and Rattler is probably hovering around 6'1". It's politics involved. To not admit wrong and bork your season because of that just doesn't make sense. jnormand likes this.

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04-30-2025, 05:38 PM	#56
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,712 Blog Entries: 29	Re: With the 40th pick in the Draft, the Saints select: Louisville QB Tyler Shough ⚜️ Originally Posted by hitta Looks like Riddick is as high on him as I am. I think he's the best passer in the draft. Originally Posted by rezburna Kellen Moore didn't draft him and was willing to spend the highest draft pick on a QB since Archie Manning. I suspect it's Shough's job to lose. They're not going to want to admit being wrong on this one. Plus Shough is 6'5" and Rattler is probably hovering around 6'1". It's politics involved. Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 Kellen Moore had plenty of time to evaluate Rattler. Doubt he'd spend a high pick on a QB who he doesn't view as a better player. I see Haener as the odd man out while Rattler and Shough battle it out in camp. Originally Posted by rezburna I'm positive he believes Shough is the better player. I wouldn't necessarily agree, but I definitely feel like he believes that. That's why I doubt Rattler gets a real chance. He has to go absolutely bonkers in camp and during the preseason. Originally Posted by iceshack149 The Saints offensive coaching staff is full of ex-Quarterbacks, including the Head Coach. I feel pretty confident they know what to look for in a QB. I also know that Moore is going to play the best guy at that position regardless of draft picks. 3 ex-high-caliber-quarterbacks, I think. There's 5 inch different between the Bayou Rattler and Shuck-man. We'll see in the camps who wins. KM is likely hedging talent at the QB position. With the CarrFax situation being a total disaster... they don't even know when/if the injury occurred. He could have injured it moving to Fresno... nobody knows. We only know CarrFax is an embarrassment to himself and now the Saints. I look forward to the camps.

04-30-2025, 05:46 PM	#57
rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 8,086	Re: With the 40th pick in the Draft, the Saints select: Louisville QB Tyler Shough ⚜️ Originally Posted by subguy To not admit wrong and bork your season because of that just doesn't make sense. Loomis fought hard to admit he was wrong about Dennis Allen and Derek Carr so it's not as though it's out of the ordinary behavior.

04-30-2025, 05:48 PM	#58
rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 8,086	Re: With the 40th pick in the Draft, the Saints select: Louisville QB Tyler Shough ⚜️ Originally Posted by iceshack149 The Saints offensive coaching staff is full of ex-Quarterbacks, including the Head Coach. I feel pretty confident they know what to look for in a QB. I also know that Moore is going to play the best guy at that position regardless of draft picks. One can hope.

04-30-2025, 06:04 PM	#59
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,621	Re: With the 40th pick in the Draft, the Saints select: Louisville QB Tyler Shough ⚜️ I for one would like to see Shough get the job, but we must be prepared for something that will piss off many. Carr may very well be still in the picture as a starter. Moore is going to want the player that gives him the best shot to win this year. Just throwing this out there until, or if, it is no longer an option. jnormand likes this.

04-30-2025, 07:47 PM	#60
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,712 Blog Entries: 29	Re: With the 40th pick in the Draft, the Saints select: Louisville QB Tyler Shough ⚜️ Originally Posted by rezburna Loomis fought hard to admit he was wrong about Dennis Allen and Derek Carr so it's not as though it's out of the ordinary behavior. Not so sure... I saw him downing his favorite drink or two at his bar on Metairie road. We likely won't really know until later.