Would the Saints have won Superbowl XLIV with 2024 rules?

arsaint · 06-11-2025, 05:22 PM

SO MUCH has changed in the NFL from 2009 - 2024 (last season).

Would the Saints have been able to win with the current rules? We were the cause of the Farve OT rule AND now you have to send out engraved invitations to an onside kick.

SmashMouth · 06-11-2025, 07:26 PM

It's not just the Saints, but many if not most teams dating back could not win by the same rules as today's wussified version of the game.

arsaint · 06-12-2025, 08:39 AM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

...today's wussified version of the game.

If you're looking for an argument there, you better change the subject!

The game today is so different.

I doubt seriously that we recover that onside kick if we have to announce it. And as a result, we lose a huge momentum boost in the game.

Could we still have won? SURE! But I think it would have been down to the last minute and could have swung to either team...

AsylumGuido · 06-12-2025, 09:16 AM

The game changed tremendously between the '80's and 2009. And the same from the '60's to the '80's. That's a major reason the popularity has continued to grow with the NFL while other sports like baseball have declined a great deal over the years. Only recently has baseball attempted to change outdated rules and adapt to today's evolving viewing public.

AsylumGuido · 06-12-2025, 10:24 AM

Another question is would the Eagles have won the championship this past season if the NFL hadn't changed the rules in 2005 to allow the pushing of the ball carrier?

stickman · 06-13-2025, 11:46 AM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Another question is would the Eagles have won the championship this past season if the NFL hadn't changed the rules in 2005 to allow the pushing of the ball carrier?

That's an excellent question.

I think it comes down to knowing the rules and taking advantage of them. That's what good coaches do, isn't it?

06-11-2025, 05:22 PM	#1
arsaint Saint Historian Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: deep in the bowels of a hidden bunker, somewhere under the brick & steel of a nondescript building.. Posts: 2,741	Would the Saints have won Superbowl XLIV with 2024 rules? SO MUCH has changed in the NFL from 2009 - 2024 (last season). Would the Saints have been able to win with the current rules? We were the cause of the Farve OT rule AND now you have to send out engraved invitations to an onside kick.

06-11-2025, 07:26 PM	#2
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,944 Blog Entries: 29	Re: Would the Saints have won Superbowl XLIV with 2024 rules? It's not just the Saints, but many if not most teams dating back could not win by the same rules as today's wussified version of the game.

06-12-2025, 08:39 AM	#3
arsaint Saint Historian Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: deep in the bowels of a hidden bunker, somewhere under the brick & steel of a nondescript building.. Posts: 2,741	Re: Would the Saints have won Superbowl XLIV with 2024 rules? Originally Posted by SmashMouth ...today's wussified version of the game. If you're looking for an argument there, you better change the subject! The game today is so different. I doubt seriously that we recover that onside kick if we have to announce it. And as a result, we lose a huge momentum boost in the game. Could we still have won? SURE! But I think it would have been down to the last minute and could have swung to either team... SmashMouth likes this.

06-12-2025, 09:16 AM	#4
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,688	Re: Would the Saints have won Superbowl XLIV with 2024 rules? The game changed tremendously between the '80's and 2009. And the same from the '60's to the '80's. That's a major reason the popularity has continued to grow with the NFL while other sports like baseball have declined a great deal over the years. Only recently has baseball attempted to change outdated rules and adapt to today's evolving viewing public.

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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,688	Re: Would the Saints have won Superbowl XLIV with 2024 rules? Another question is would the Eagles have won the championship this past season if the NFL hadn't changed the rules in 2005 to allow the pushing of the ball carrier?

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06-13-2025, 11:46 AM	#6
stickman 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Gonzales, LA Posts: 1,805	Re: Would the Saints have won Superbowl XLIV with 2024 rules? Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Another question is would the Eagles have won the championship this past season if the NFL hadn't changed the rules in 2005 to allow the pushing of the ball carrier? That's an excellent question. I think it comes down to knowing the rules and taking advantage of them. That's what good coaches do, isn't it?