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SmashMouth 06-25-2025 06:47 AM

Re: Saints’ Tyler Shough Wants Fully Guaranteed Deal, Delaying Second-Round Signings
 
If Tyler Shough expects to continue to be in the mix for a starting gig, he needs to be out there competing with the Bayou Rattler. If he holds out for this guaranteed contract as a result of his agent, the opportunity may pass him by. Did he get any guarantees when he went to Louisville for a year? I suspect we'll get clarity before the real camp rolls around.

AsylumGuido 06-25-2025 09:51 AM

Re: Saints’ Tyler Shough Wants Fully Guaranteed Deal, Delaying Second-Round Signings
 
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Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 1010334)
If Tyler Shough expects to continue to be in the mix for a starting gig, he needs to be out there competing with the Bayou Rattler. If he holds out for this guaranteed contract as a result of his agent, the opportunity may pass him by. Did he get any guarantees when he went to Louisville for a year? I suspect we'll get clarity before the real camp rolls around.

He hasn't held out. It is common for players to sign a waiver which allows for them to practice without having signed their contract. Right now his agent is just playing the same game as every other 2nd rounder's agent. He wouldn't be doing his job if he wasn't trying to get as much as possible.

saintsfan1976 06-25-2025 10:41 AM

Re: Saints’ Tyler Shough Wants Fully Guaranteed Deal, Delaying Second-Round Signings
 
I hold nothing against Shough. However the slope is slippery.

AsylumGuido 06-25-2025 11:58 AM

Re: Saints’ Tyler Shough Wants Fully Guaranteed Deal, Delaying Second-Round Signings
 
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Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 (Post 1010336)
I hold nothing against Shough. However the slope is slippery.

I suspect the retention percentage of 2nd rounders will will climb a bit more if they all end up getting the guarantees. Especially if/when the league moves to expansion to 36 teams. That's basically 75 more players required counting practice squad per team or 300 more players total league wide. The second round will be more like 1b rather than 2. They would become less disposable due to the dilution. I would think teams would be more likely too give them more chances to succeed.

jnormand 06-25-2025 01:04 PM

Re: Saints’ Tyler Shough Wants Fully Guaranteed Deal, Delaying Second-Round Signings
 
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 1010337)
I suspect the retention percentage of 2nd rounders will will climb a bit more if they all end up getting the guarantees. Especially if/when the league moves to expansion to 36 teams. That's basically 75 more players required counting practice squad per team or 300 more players total league wide. The second round will be more like 1b rather than 2. They would become less disposable due to the dilution. I would think teams would be more likely too give them more chances to succeed.

I may be wrong but your posts seem to be somewhat defensive of Shough. If that’s the case, I think it’s a bit unnecessary. I don’t think anyone is slamming the guy. They’re simply saying if he holds out and wants guarantees similar to what first rounders get, then he can’t complain if they give the keys to Rattler to start the season.

I think everyone understands it’s a business. But like 76 said, it’s a slippery slope.

Rugby Saint II 06-25-2025 03:00 PM

Re: Saints’ Tyler Shough Wants Fully Guaranteed Deal, Delaying Second-Round Signings
 
Its business. Nothing to see here. Move along.

AsylumGuido 07-17-2025 10:51 AM

Re: Saints’ Tyler Shough Wants Fully Guaranteed Deal, Delaying Second-Round Signings
 
The first of the remaining 2nd rounders, #43 Alfred Collins, just signed a deal that totaled 87% guaranteed. I suspect that Shough will be getting a deal soon for a slightly higher percentage. I'll bet they are all signed in the next couple of days.

AsylumGuido 07-17-2025 10:59 AM

Re: Saints’ Tyler Shough Wants Fully Guaranteed Deal, Delaying Second-Round Signings
 
There's another 2nd round signing. No details yet. Pick #62 I believe.


AsylumGuido 07-17-2025 11:18 AM

Re: Saints’ Tyler Shough Wants Fully Guaranteed Deal, Delaying Second-Round Signings
 
No kidding.


AsylumGuido 07-17-2025 12:39 PM

Re: Saints’ Tyler Shough Wants Fully Guaranteed Deal, Delaying Second-Round Signings
 
There's another.



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