Saints’ Tyler Shough Wants Fully Guaranteed Deal, Delaying Second-Round Signings

SmashMouth · 06-25-2025, 06:47 AM

If Tyler Shough expects to continue to be in the mix for a starting gig, he needs to be out there competing with the Bayou Rattler. If he holds out for this guaranteed contract as a result of his agent, the opportunity may pass him by. Did he get any guarantees when he went to Louisville for a year? I suspect we'll get clarity before the real camp rolls around.

AsylumGuido · 06-25-2025, 09:51 AM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

If Tyler Shough expects to continue to be in the mix for a starting gig, he needs to be out there competing with the Bayou Rattler. If he holds out for this guaranteed contract as a result of his agent, the opportunity may pass him by. Did he get any guarantees when he went to Louisville for a year? I suspect we'll get clarity before the real camp rolls around.

He hasn't held out. It is common for players to sign a waiver which allows for them to practice without having signed their contract. Right now his agent is just playing the same game as every other 2nd rounder's agent. He wouldn't be doing his job if he wasn't trying to get as much as possible.

saintsfan1976 · 06-25-2025, 10:41 AM

I hold nothing against Shough. However the slope is slippery.

AsylumGuido · 06-25-2025, 11:58 AM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

I hold nothing against Shough. However the slope is slippery.

I suspect the retention percentage of 2nd rounders will will climb a bit more if they all end up getting the guarantees. Especially if/when the league moves to expansion to 36 teams. That's basically 75 more players required counting practice squad per team or 300 more players total league wide. The second round will be more like 1b rather than 2. They would become less disposable due to the dilution. I would think teams would be more likely too give them more chances to succeed.

jnormand · 06-25-2025, 01:04 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

I suspect the retention percentage of 2nd rounders will will climb a bit more if they all end up getting the guarantees. Especially if/when the league moves to expansion to 36 teams. That's basically 75 more players required counting practice squad per team or 300 more players total league wide. The second round will be more like 1b rather than 2. They would become less disposable due to the dilution. I would think teams would be more likely too give them more chances to succeed.

I may be wrong but your posts seem to be somewhat defensive of Shough. If that’s the case, I think it’s a bit unnecessary. I don’t think anyone is slamming the guy. They’re simply saying if he holds out and wants guarantees similar to what first rounders get, then he can’t complain if they give the keys to Rattler to start the season.

I think everyone understands it’s a business. But like 76 said, it’s a slippery slope.

Rugby Saint II · 06-25-2025, 03:00 PM

Its business. Nothing to see here. Move along.

06-25-2025, 06:47 AM	#11
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,962 Blog Entries: 29	Re: Saints’ Tyler Shough Wants Fully Guaranteed Deal, Delaying Second-Round Signings If Tyler Shough expects to continue to be in the mix for a starting gig, he needs to be out there competing with the Bayou Rattler. If he holds out for this guaranteed contract as a result of his agent, the opportunity may pass him by. Did he get any guarantees when he went to Louisville for a year? I suspect we'll get clarity before the real camp rolls around. jnormand likes this.

06-25-2025, 09:51 AM	#12
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,707	Re: Saints’ Tyler Shough Wants Fully Guaranteed Deal, Delaying Second-Round Signings Originally Posted by SmashMouth If Tyler Shough expects to continue to be in the mix for a starting gig, he needs to be out there competing with the Bayou Rattler. If he holds out for this guaranteed contract as a result of his agent, the opportunity may pass him by. Did he get any guarantees when he went to Louisville for a year? I suspect we'll get clarity before the real camp rolls around. He hasn't held out. It is common for players to sign a waiver which allows for them to practice without having signed their contract. Right now his agent is just playing the same game as every other 2nd rounder's agent. He wouldn't be doing his job if he wasn't trying to get as much as possible.

06-25-2025, 10:41 AM	#13
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 11,047 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Saints’ Tyler Shough Wants Fully Guaranteed Deal, Delaying Second-Round Signings I hold nothing against Shough. However the slope is slippery. jnormand likes this.

06-25-2025, 11:58 AM	#14
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,707	Re: Saints’ Tyler Shough Wants Fully Guaranteed Deal, Delaying Second-Round Signings Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 I hold nothing against Shough. However the slope is slippery. I suspect the retention percentage of 2nd rounders will will climb a bit more if they all end up getting the guarantees. Especially if/when the league moves to expansion to 36 teams. That's basically 75 more players required counting practice squad per team or 300 more players total league wide. The second round will be more like 1b rather than 2. They would become less disposable due to the dilution. I would think teams would be more likely too give them more chances to succeed.

06-25-2025, 01:04 PM	#15
jnormand 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: The Free State of Idaho Posts: 5,774	Re: Saints’ Tyler Shough Wants Fully Guaranteed Deal, Delaying Second-Round Signings Originally Posted by AsylumGuido I suspect the retention percentage of 2nd rounders will will climb a bit more if they all end up getting the guarantees. Especially if/when the league moves to expansion to 36 teams. That's basically 75 more players required counting practice squad per team or 300 more players total league wide. The second round will be more like 1b rather than 2. They would become less disposable due to the dilution. I would think teams would be more likely too give them more chances to succeed. I may be wrong but your posts seem to be somewhat defensive of Shough. If that’s the case, I think it’s a bit unnecessary. I don’t think anyone is slamming the guy. They’re simply saying if he holds out and wants guarantees similar to what first rounders get, then he can’t complain if they give the keys to Rattler to start the season. I think everyone understands it’s a business. But like 76 said, it’s a slippery slope. neugey likes this.

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