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Saints’ Tyler Shough Wants Fully Guaranteed Deal, Delaying Second-Round Signings

this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Dart and Shough were the two quarterbacks we identified as potential franchise leaders. When Dart came off the board, we went with Shough. Once you make that kind of pick, especially at quarterback, you stand behind it. The leap’s already ...

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Old 07-21-2025, 06:26 PM   #41
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Dart and Shough were the two quarterbacks we identified as potential franchise leaders. When Dart came off the board, we went with Shough. Once you make that kind of pick, especially at quarterback, you stand behind it. The leap’s already been taken. At that point, what does guaranteed money really mean against the cap? If he turns out to suck, we are in a terrible situation regardless. I have faith in this guy though. Other second-rounders are getting it. If we believe in him, we should show it. If anything, it could lift some pressure and help him play more freely.
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Old 07-21-2025, 07:13 PM   #42
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I'm not mad at it.
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Hot take ..

Tyler Shough will be become a better NFL QB than Dart inside of 3 seasons.

The tools are there. We'll see.
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Old 07-22-2025, 11:05 AM   #44
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Dart and Shough were the two quarterbacks we identified as potential franchise leaders. When Dart came off the board, we went with Shough. Once you make that kind of pick, especially at quarterback, you stand behind it. The leap’s already been taken. At that point, what does guaranteed money really mean against the cap? If he turns out to suck, we are in a terrible situation regardless. I have faith in this guy though. Other second-rounders are getting it. If we believe in him, we should show it. If anything, it could lift some pressure and help him play more freely.
The guaranteed money wasn't the risk, caving early was the risk. If you want to know what being public enemy #1 of the NFL means, look at what happened to us in the 2018 NFCCG, officiating against the Saints in the decade after bountygate, or what happened to the Raiders with the Gruden leaks, etc. If we had given Shough the fully guaranteed contract while 10 players ahead of him were still unsigned, forcing 10 other teams by precedent to give guaranteed contracts, we would have put a target on the teams back. That would have had major repercussions. The NFL is not a benevolent democracy, its mob rule, and you have play your cards smart to avoid getting the knife in your back. We played it smart by waiting until the pick ahead of Shough got a guaranteed deal and then doing the same, so it only affected us. That was fine. There is the 10-20% possibility that Shough will be the next Josh Rosen, Christian Hackenburg, etc, every QB pick especially in later rounds is a risk, but that will only cost us like 1% of the cap. Caving on league interests could have cost us much much more, like playoff eliminations, manufactured investigations forfeiting picks, Super Bowl hosting opportunities, etc.
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Old 07-22-2025, 11:23 AM   #45
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Hot take ..

Tyler Shough will be become a better NFL QB than Dart inside of 3 seasons.

The tools are there. We'll see.
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