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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by AsylumGuido According to PFF rankings Ruiz was the 30th ranked guard in the league last season. 30. Cesar Ruiz, New Orleans Saints A knee injury knocked Ruiz out for a good chunk of the front half of ...
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido
We've missed more than hit on OGs of late ... Hopefully our luck changes.![]()
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Re: 2025 Saints Training Camp
Originally Posted by rezburna
Right. Still sounds like a rookie to me.![]()
New Head Coach, new system, only two weeks in & we hadn't even reached pre season game #1 yet. Very few will look like Stroud or JD5 out of the gate. Bobby needs to chill. |
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Re: 2025 Saints Training Camp
Honestly it looked like Penning got beat and was close to a hold in the twitter video.
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Re: 2025 Saints Training Camp
I'll just say this. Shough wasn't accurate in college. He wasn't poised in the pocket. He wasn't the greatest at protecting the football or throwing receivers open. He has the size. He has the physical gifts. But he wasn't dissecting defenses and dominating his competition. All those defencies have come up so far. I think it's rationale for Bobby and others to not be as patient because a lot of people didn't agree with the pick to begin with. We can't write him off today, but I think there's a 30% chance he'll become a good NFL QB.
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Re: 2025 Saints Training Camp
Originally Posted by rezburna
Can't argue this until we see him improve on what he was in college. ![]()
I'm optimistic due in large part to being in Kellen Moore's offense. When you string together the timeline of events, it appears this was always a rebuild season with an eye toward one of the top QBs in 2026. I know it's too early to sell the farm, but the likelihood that he's a multi-season starter is slim. |
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Re: 2025 Saints Training Camp
Originally Posted by AsylumGuido
As I say, numerous times he's been late reacting to a stunt and it's caused pressure up the gut.![]()
I'm all for being proven wrong if it means the team improves, but to me, he stands out as the weak link on that line until proven otherwise. Maybe I'm scorned that he accelerated Brees's retirement by whiffing on the block that broke Drew's ribs. |
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The Shough / entire QB situation is going to be an interesting one to play out.
Will the QB pick and the spot being up for grabs, give Rattler the determination he needs to be the starter? Will Shough overtake Rattler and become the starter? Can Shough overcome the flappy tendencies? Will they both fail and we end up picking another QB anyway? |
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Re: 2025 Saints Training Camp
Originally Posted by dizzle88
I have more faith in Rattler. He completed over 65% of his passes with both Oklahoma and South Carolina. He started in the Big 12 and the SEC. His final year at South Carolina he completed nearly 70% of his passes with a pedestrian offensive line in the hardest conference in college football. And even with all that he still might not be anything more than a sub-par to average NFL QB. I'm just saying if I was a betting man, I'd put my money on him.
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Re: 2025 Saints Training Camp
Originally Posted by rezburna
I'm definitely intrigued to see what Rattler can do with actual starters, considering the 3rd string team he spent most of the time with last season.![]()
Not to mention, whilst he had his struggles, he absolutely lit up the buccaneers in the first half of that game and was one 2 pt conversion away from beating the Commanders. I like the toughness Rattler brings and he's not afraid to stand in the pocket to make the throw. |
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