Observations from the Saints' Preseason Game vs Chargers

turbo_dog · 08-11-2025, 01:43 PM

Originally Posted by voodooido

Lance is horrible. He’s traveled the league as a back up for a reason. I would rather go with what we have to see if there is any potential. Trading a starting guard and a backup qb for a backup qb is beyond ignorant.

Oh you still think Penning is going to be good?

voodooido · 08-11-2025, 05:13 PM

Originally Posted by turbo_dog

Oh you still think Penning is going to be good?

Penning has improved greatly by moving to guard. He is our starting guard which means the coaches see him as the best on the team. He will be serviceable for sure. Lance will not

turbo_dog · 08-13-2025, 04:30 PM

Originally Posted by voodooido

Penning has improved greatly by moving to guard. He is our starting guard which means the coaches see him as the best on the team. He will be serviceable for sure. Lance will not

What evidence do you have of his great improvement?

AsylumGuido · 08-13-2025, 04:50 PM

Originally Posted by turbo_dog

What evidence do you have of his great improvement?

The fact is that he is our best option at this time at left guard. Is he ideal? No. Neither are a quarter of the guards in the league right now. With a 32 team elite league like the NFL, human beings with the abilities to have the size, demeaner, athleticism, brains, and general talent to play the positions are rare. Couple that with the injury rates of recent years and the conscious decisions by the most elite of these athletes in college and high school to move to the defensive line where the potential money is better and the snap counts are fewer.

Any improvement by Penning can be seen as "great" in a position of critical need.

turbo_dog · 08-14-2025, 01:37 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

The fact is that he is our best option at this time at left guard. Is he ideal? No. Neither are a quarter of the guards in the league right now. With a 32 team elite league like the NFL, human beings with the abilities to have the size, demeaner, athleticism, brains, and general talent to play the positions are rare. Couple that with the injury rates of recent years and the conscious decisions by the most elite of these athletes in college and high school to move to the defensive line where the potential money is better and the snap counts are fewer.

Any improvement by Penning can be seen as "great" in a position of critical need.

This is nonsense.

Crusader · 08-14-2025, 02:15 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

The fact is that he is our best option at this time at left guard. Is he ideal? No. Neither are a quarter of the guards in the league right now. With a 32 team elite league like the NFL, human beings with the abilities to have the size, demeaner, athleticism, brains, and general talent to play the positions are rare. Couple that with the injury rates of recent years and the conscious decisions by the most elite of these athletes in college and high school to move to the defensive line where the potential money is better and the snap counts are fewer.

Any improvement by Penning can be seen as "great" in a position of critical need.

And if he is our best option we should watch the waiver wire very closely because that ain't saying much.

jnormand · 08-14-2025, 09:23 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

The fact is that he is our best option at this time at left guard. Is he ideal? No. Neither are a quarter of the guards in the league right now. With a 32 team elite league like the NFL, human beings with the abilities to have the size, demeaner, athleticism, brains, and general talent to play the positions are rare. Couple that with the injury rates of recent years and the conscious decisions by the most elite of these athletes in college and high school to move to the defensive line where the potential money is better and the snap counts are fewer.

Any improvement by Penning can be seen as "great" in a position of critical need.

Look I’m not trying to be rude man, but you make excuses for everyone and everything.

You are a professional at it. It wouldn’t surprise me at all if you were a politician or a politician’s lawyer. Lol.

I 100% hope that Penning is a beast at guard. Is he? **** idk. He’s injured. And I’ve heard he’s been okay in camp. But good grief, until he proves it, he’s just Foskey with worse competition.

08-11-2025, 01:43 PM	#1
turbo_dog 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Atlanta Posts: 1,714	Re: Observations from the Saints' Preseason Game vs Chargers Originally Posted by voodooido Lance is horrible. He’s traveled the league as a back up for a reason. I would rather go with what we have to see if there is any potential. Trading a starting guard and a backup qb for a backup qb is beyond ignorant. Oh you still think Penning is going to be good?

08-11-2025, 05:13 PM	#2
voodooido 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 2,860	Re: Observations from the Saints' Preseason Game vs Chargers Originally Posted by turbo_dog Oh you still think Penning is going to be good? Penning has improved greatly by moving to guard. He is our starting guard which means the coaches see him as the best on the team. He will be serviceable for sure. Lance will not
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08-13-2025, 04:30 PM	#3
turbo_dog 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Atlanta Posts: 1,714	Re: Observations from the Saints' Preseason Game vs Chargers Originally Posted by voodooido Penning has improved greatly by moving to guard. He is our starting guard which means the coaches see him as the best on the team. He will be serviceable for sure. Lance will not What evidence do you have of his great improvement? Crusader, K Major and rezburna like this.

08-13-2025, 04:50 PM	#4
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,871	Re: Observations from the Saints' Preseason Game vs Chargers Originally Posted by turbo_dog What evidence do you have of his great improvement? The fact is that he is our best option at this time at left guard. Is he ideal? No. Neither are a quarter of the guards in the league right now. With a 32 team elite league like the NFL, human beings with the abilities to have the size, demeaner, athleticism, brains, and general talent to play the positions are rare. Couple that with the injury rates of recent years and the conscious decisions by the most elite of these athletes in college and high school to move to the defensive line where the potential money is better and the snap counts are fewer. Any improvement by Penning can be seen as "great" in a position of critical need.
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08-14-2025, 01:37 PM	#5
turbo_dog 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Atlanta Posts: 1,714	Re: Observations from the Saints' Preseason Game vs Chargers Originally Posted by AsylumGuido The fact is that he is our best option at this time at left guard. Is he ideal? No. Neither are a quarter of the guards in the league right now. With a 32 team elite league like the NFL, human beings with the abilities to have the size, demeaner, athleticism, brains, and general talent to play the positions are rare. Couple that with the injury rates of recent years and the conscious decisions by the most elite of these athletes in college and high school to move to the defensive line where the potential money is better and the snap counts are fewer. Any improvement by Penning can be seen as "great" in a position of critical need. This is nonsense. mapcow, Sinner and K Major like this.

08-14-2025, 02:15 PM	#6
Crusader Resident Swede Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Märsta, Sweden Posts: 8,054	Re: Observations from the Saints' Preseason Game vs Chargers Originally Posted by AsylumGuido The fact is that he is our best option at this time at left guard. Is he ideal? No. Neither are a quarter of the guards in the league right now. With a 32 team elite league like the NFL, human beings with the abilities to have the size, demeaner, athleticism, brains, and general talent to play the positions are rare. Couple that with the injury rates of recent years and the conscious decisions by the most elite of these athletes in college and high school to move to the defensive line where the potential money is better and the snap counts are fewer. Any improvement by Penning can be seen as "great" in a position of critical need. And if he is our best option we should watch the waiver wire very closely because that ain't saying much. mapcow and Sinner like this.

08-14-2025, 09:23 PM	#7
jnormand 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: The Free State of Idaho Posts: 5,795	Re: Observations from the Saints' Preseason Game vs Chargers Originally Posted by AsylumGuido The fact is that he is our best option at this time at left guard. Is he ideal? No. Neither are a quarter of the guards in the league right now. With a 32 team elite league like the NFL, human beings with the abilities to have the size, demeaner, athleticism, brains, and general talent to play the positions are rare. Couple that with the injury rates of recent years and the conscious decisions by the most elite of these athletes in college and high school to move to the defensive line where the potential money is better and the snap counts are fewer. Any improvement by Penning can be seen as "great" in a position of critical need. Look I’m not trying to be rude man, but you make excuses for everyone and everything. You are a professional at it. It wouldn’t surprise me at all if you were a politician or a politician’s lawyer. Lol. I 100% hope that Penning is a beast at guard. Is he? **** idk. He’s injured. And I’ve heard he’s been okay in camp. But good grief, until he proves it, he’s just Foskey with worse competition. iceshack149, turbo_dog, vpheughan and 3 others like this.