Food for thought

BoudinSandwich · 11-07-2005, 10:18 PM

Unless you're running full speed in one direction and the quarterback throws 5 feet behind you in the other direction. You may be able to get a fingertip or two on the ball...maybe even a full finger, but the odds of you bringing it in is completely stacked against you.

I know what you're trying to do and the fact is Saints receivers are constantly catching balls thrown too high, behind them, and on the ground. Brooks hardly ever hits his receivers in stride. The receivers are always jumping on the ground to grab the ball. It seems the only passes that he can throw succesfully are check down passes to his running backs and come-back routes.

Have you wondered why the Saints haven't been able to run a succesful screen play in the past few years? It's because Brooks is the quarterback. I don't care what you say. It's blatantly obvious to me that he's always missing the receiver/back on the screen pass. It's always too high, too low, too far behind, or too far in front.

Brooks hit a player in stride on one play this week(Chicago). It was a slant route and the receiver never missed a step. The receiver broke it for a huge gain down field. With the receivers that this team has, there is no sense why this can't happen on every drive. The Saints have receivers with great ability to get YAC, but they never do. Why? Because they're always diving on the ground to catch the ball.

Also, another thing about Brooks' passes, he's always throwing bullets as hard as he can no matter how close or far the receiver is. Brooks is one of the tallest quarterbacks in the league. There is no sense for him to have as many passes batted down at the line as he does. Instead of throwing a "touch" pass to someone 5 yards away and hitting them in stride for the potential of gaining YAC, Brooks throws a bullet 10 feet high causing the receiver to stop and jump just to catch the ball.

I understand there are "lanes" that a quarterback has to throw through. However, this limits Brooks' ability even further because he can only throw one type of pass, a bullet.

saintswhodi · 11-07-2005, 10:21 PM

Oldies, that response was well-thought out and logical. Too bad the response won't be.

saintswhodi · 11-07-2005, 10:49 PM

Either speak the truth are be labeled a liar like someone else in here.l

No need to out yourself, we've all figured you out on our own. 8)

BoudinSandwich · 11-07-2005, 11:02 PM

Originally Posted by BlackonBlack

Unless you're running full speed in one direction and the quarterback throws 5 feet behind you in the other direction. You may be able to get a fingertip or two on the ball...maybe even a full finger, but the odds of you bringing it in is completely stacked against you.

I know what you're trying to do and the fact is Saints receivers are constantly catching balls thrown too high, behind them, and on the ground. Brooks hardly ever hits his receivers in stride. The receivers are always jumping on the ground to grab the ball. It seems the only passes that he can throw succesfully are check down passes to his running backs and come-back routes.

Have you wondered why the Saints haven't been able to run a succesful screen play in the past few years? It's because Brooks is the quarterback. I don't care what you say. It's blatantly obvious to me that he's always missing the receiver/back on the screen pass. It's always too high, too low, too far behind, or too far in front.

Brooks hit a player in stride on one play this week(Chicago). It was a slant route and the receiver never missed a step. The receiver broke it for a huge gain down field. With the receivers that this team has, there is no sense why this can't happen on every drive. The Saints have receivers with great ability to get YAC, but they never do. Why? Because they're always diving on the ground to catch the ball.

Also, another thing about Brooks' passes, he's always throwing bullets as hard as he can no matter how close or far the receiver is. Brooks is one of the tallest quarterbacks in the league. There is no sense for him to have as many passes batted down at the line as he does. Instead of throwing a "touch" pass to someone 5 yards away and hitting them in stride for the potential of gaining YAC, Brooks throws a bullet 10 feet high causing the receiver to stop and jump just to catch the ball.

I understand there are "lanes" that a quarterback has to throw through. However, this limits Brooks' ability even further because he can only throw one type of pass, a bullet.

I understand now, when the ball hits a WR in the stomach, ricochets to the chin then to the hands pops up in the air into the defenders hands that's thrown behind the WR. cAUSE MORE SO THAN NOT THOSE ARE THE TYPE PASSES AB throws, and you know I never saw a pass a WR had to jump for until AB started throwing, i've never seen a WR have to reach behind himself to catch a pass until AB started throwing...I'm gonna try and say this nicely without calling you names, if you're gonna post in here Oldies at least be honest.

Behind the WR passes are thrown by every QB every week, Passes that are jump balls are thrown every week by QB'S...Either speak the truth are be labeled a liar like someone else in here.l

More so than not? You, sir, must speak the thruth as well.

As for as me speaking the truth, well, let me tell you about the Miami game. I do remember, sir, that Joe Horn ran an inside slant into Miami's endzone and Brooks threw a rocket soo high over Horn's head that he probaby could not have even touched the ball had he jumped. And no, he was not "throwing it away."

How many times do you hear a commentator say "bad pass?" "That one was thrown behind him." "Brooks missed him." How many times do you hear them say, "that was a perfect pass and it should have been caught?"

If you're telling me that Saints receivers drop more passes than Brooks throws incomplete, then there is something that one of us is missing.

If I take a gander at another thread (the Brooks poll thread) and see that more people want to get rid of Brooks right now rather than keep him, then I will assume that you're the one missing something.

mjf150 · 11-08-2005, 08:22 AM

Originally Posted by BlackonBlack

"If that ball hits your hands, as a wide receiver, there's no excuses for the ball hitting the ground."

Did he mention anything about throwing a 20+ yard backward pass to a lineman?

11-07-2005, 10:18 PM	#1
BoudinSandwich OldiesDJ Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Scott, LA Posts: 951 Blog Entries: 12	RE: Food for thought Unless you're running full speed in one direction and the quarterback throws 5 feet behind you in the other direction. You may be able to get a fingertip or two on the ball...maybe even a full finger, but the odds of you bringing it in is completely stacked against you. I know what you're trying to do and the fact is Saints receivers are constantly catching balls thrown too high, behind them, and on the ground. Brooks hardly ever hits his receivers in stride. The receivers are always jumping on the ground to grab the ball. It seems the only passes that he can throw succesfully are check down passes to his running backs and come-back routes. Have you wondered why the Saints haven't been able to run a succesful screen play in the past few years? It's because Brooks is the quarterback. I don't care what you say. It's blatantly obvious to me that he's always missing the receiver/back on the screen pass. It's always too high, too low, too far behind, or too far in front. Brooks hit a player in stride on one play this week(Chicago). It was a slant route and the receiver never missed a step. The receiver broke it for a huge gain down field. With the receivers that this team has, there is no sense why this can't happen on every drive. The Saints have receivers with great ability to get YAC, but they never do. Why? Because they're always diving on the ground to catch the ball. Also, another thing about Brooks' passes, he's always throwing bullets as hard as he can no matter how close or far the receiver is. Brooks is one of the tallest quarterbacks in the league. There is no sense for him to have as many passes batted down at the line as he does. Instead of throwing a "touch" pass to someone 5 yards away and hitting them in stride for the potential of gaining YAC, Brooks throws a bullet 10 feet high causing the receiver to stop and jump just to catch the ball. I understand there are "lanes" that a quarterback has to throw through. However, this limits Brooks' ability even further because he can only throw one type of pass, a bullet.

11-07-2005, 11:02 PM	#4
BoudinSandwich OldiesDJ Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Scott, LA Posts: 951 Blog Entries: 12	Originally Posted by BlackonBlack Unless you're running full speed in one direction and the quarterback throws 5 feet behind you in the other direction. You may be able to get a fingertip or two on the ball...maybe even a full finger, but the odds of you bringing it in is completely stacked against you. I know what you're trying to do and the fact is Saints receivers are constantly catching balls thrown too high, behind them, and on the ground. Brooks hardly ever hits his receivers in stride. The receivers are always jumping on the ground to grab the ball. It seems the only passes that he can throw succesfully are check down passes to his running backs and come-back routes. Have you wondered why the Saints haven't been able to run a succesful screen play in the past few years? It's because Brooks is the quarterback. I don't care what you say. It's blatantly obvious to me that he's always missing the receiver/back on the screen pass. It's always too high, too low, too far behind, or too far in front. Brooks hit a player in stride on one play this week(Chicago). It was a slant route and the receiver never missed a step. The receiver broke it for a huge gain down field. With the receivers that this team has, there is no sense why this can't happen on every drive. The Saints have receivers with great ability to get YAC, but they never do. Why? Because they're always diving on the ground to catch the ball. Also, another thing about Brooks' passes, he's always throwing bullets as hard as he can no matter how close or far the receiver is. Brooks is one of the tallest quarterbacks in the league. There is no sense for him to have as many passes batted down at the line as he does. Instead of throwing a "touch" pass to someone 5 yards away and hitting them in stride for the potential of gaining YAC, Brooks throws a bullet 10 feet high causing the receiver to stop and jump just to catch the ball. I understand there are "lanes" that a quarterback has to throw through. However, this limits Brooks' ability even further because he can only throw one type of pass, a bullet. I understand now, when the ball hits a WR in the stomach, ricochets to the chin then to the hands pops up in the air into the defenders hands that's thrown behind the WR. cAUSE MORE SO THAN NOT THOSE ARE THE TYPE PASSES AB throws, and you know I never saw a pass a WR had to jump for until AB started throwing, i've never seen a WR have to reach behind himself to catch a pass until AB started throwing...I'm gonna try and say this nicely without calling you names, if you're gonna post in here Oldies at least be honest. Behind the WR passes are thrown by every QB every week, Passes that are jump balls are thrown every week by QB'S...Either speak the truth are be labeled a liar like someone else in here.l More so than not? You, sir, must speak the thruth as well. As for as me speaking the truth, well, let me tell you about the Miami game. I do remember, sir, that Joe Horn ran an inside slant into Miami's endzone and Brooks threw a rocket soo high over Horn's head that he probaby could not have even touched the ball had he jumped. And no, he was not "throwing it away." How many times do you hear a commentator say "bad pass?" "That one was thrown behind him." "Brooks missed him." How many times do you hear them say, "that was a perfect pass and it should have been caught?" If you're telling me that Saints receivers drop more passes than Brooks throws incomplete, then there is something that one of us is missing. If I take a gander at another thread (the Brooks poll thread) and see that more people want to get rid of Brooks right now rather than keep him, then I will assume that you're the one missing something.

11-08-2005, 08:22 AM	#5
mjf150 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 747	Re: Food for thought Originally Posted by BlackonBlack "If that ball hits your hands, as a wide receiver, there's no excuses for the ball hitting the ground." Did he mention anything about throwing a 20+ yard backward pass to a lineman?
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11-07-2005, 10:21 PM	#2
saintswhodi 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 6,941	Oldies, that response was well-thought out and logical. Too bad the response won't be.

11-07-2005, 10:49 PM	#3
saintswhodi 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 6,941	Either speak the truth are be labeled a liar like someone else in here.l No need to out yourself, we've all figured you out on our own. 8)